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Scotland can bounce back – Burley

Scotland manager George Burley bemoaned his side’s luck in losing 4-0 to Norway but thinks they can bounce back to qualify for the World Cup finals.

"Whatever could have gone wrong tonight went wrong," he told BBC Scotland.

"It has been a disastrous result, to lose by four when we were looking to cement our position in second place but we will be in there fighting.

"We lost, but we still have two games left. If we win those, I still feel we can be in the play-offs."

The result means Scotland remain level with Macedonia on seven points but slip from second to third in qualifying Group Nine on goal difference.

With the eight best runners-up from the nine qualification groups progressing to the play-offs (* see note at foot of story), Burley’s men almost certainly need to win their remaining two games – a double-header against Macedonia and the Netherlands at Hampden Park – to have any hope of securing a spot.

Scotland play Macedonia on 5 September knowing that defeat would all but end their hopes of reaching South Africa 2010.

"Up to the sending-off, I thought we maybe had the better of it as far as chances were concerned"

Scotland manager George Burley

A draw would leave them having to beat the already-qualified Dutch on 9 September but by that point Macedonia and Norway, who meet on the same day, could both be above them.

Victory over the Scots lifted Norway off the bottom of the table and revived their own play-off aspirations.

Egil Olsen’s side made a woeful start to their campaign, with three draws and two defeats from their opening five matches, but they are now just a point adrift of Scotland and Macedonia.

They play bottom-of-the-group Iceland in Reykjavik on 5 September before hosting Macedonia in Oslo four days later.

"I said before the game that I thought we needed six points to make the play-offs," said Burley.

"So nothing has changed. We have two games left and they are both at home, so we have to pick ourselves up and show the character necessary to get into second place and the play-offs.

"Norway would like to be in our position just now and I have no doubts that we can beat Macedonia at home. Holland was always going to be difficult but they have qualified so I believe we have the players who can win both games.

"If we can’t win our two games, we don’t deserve to get in the play-offs."

Norway took the lead immediately after Gary Caldwell was sent off after picking up two yellow cards, while fellow central defenders Steven Caldwell and substitute Christophe Berra both had to come off through injury.

"All our problems started with the sending off and then it went from bad to worse," said Burley, who has been in charge of Scotland since January 2008.

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"Scotland disgraced our nation tonight – they almost gave up after 1 – 0, those players need to have a long look at the themselves and as for burley you’ve had it chief!!"

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"Before the sending off, I thought we more than held our own, we had three half chances and were slightly on top. Then they scored right away and it was a wicked deflection off Scott Brown for the first goal.

"Steven Caldwell was complaining about his groin at half time and we had to then bring him off. We moved Alan Hutton in to the middle and then Christophe Berra, who had come on, picked up a hamstring injury and Steven Whittaker came on, so we had five different defences.

"It was a horrible result but it is gone now. You can’t say it was a disaster because we still have a chance.

Burley thought Caldwell was unlucky to receive a second booking, which came after the Celtic defender hauled back John Carew.

"I thought it was very harsh – Carew was pulling Gary and Gary was trying to hold his own," said Burley. "I don’t think the referee realised he’d booked Gary, the Norwegian players said he’d already been booked.

"If the referee had realised he had already booked him before, he wouldn’t have sent him off."

And Burley refused to place any blame on stand-in goalkeeper David Marshall, who has now conceded 11 goals in his three international appearances for Scotland.

"I don’t think you can fault him for any of the goals," the manager added. "The free-kick at the end, he (Pedersen) whipped it into the top corner and I don’t think anyone would have saved that.

"And the other ones were decent finishes, although the first one was fortunate when they got the deflection."


* Group Nine consists of five teams, one less than the other pools. When calculating the best runners-up, therefore, matches played against the sixth-placed finishers in Groups One to Eight will not be taken into consideration.


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Should we cover up like the French?

The French are putting their bikini tops back on – so should we follow suit? And how comfortable do you feel about semi-nudity anyway?

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Rosie, my 17-year-old, flies to Corfu with her friends this weekend for what I’m sure will be a wild teenage holiday. Will she, though, be sunbathing topless?

“Mum! Are you mad?” she asks. “Absolutely not! I’d never, ever sunbathe without my bikini top on. And before you ask, nor would any of my friends.”

Rosie is, in almost any other way you could think of, enjoying a far more liberal adolescence than my own. But when it comes to nudity, she is of a totally different mindset.

When I was a teenager, however, I would think nothing of sunbathing wearing only bikini bottoms. In fact, I think my friends and I would have seen it, back in the early 80s, as almost de rigueur. It felt so good, taking off your top and lying half-naked in the sun on the beach: free, liberating, warm and, hey presto, no bikini-lines. Being on holiday wasn’t being on holiday without a bit of topless sunbathing.

Fast-forward a quarter century and yes, I’m still at it. But it’s a lot harder these days. First, thanks to the fact that I’m now a mother of four, I’m a lot more likely to be found on a beach in the West Country than in the Med – and it’s usually a bit nippy in Devon without a fleece, never mind without a bikini top.

Second, my family – all four daughters, plus their Scottish Presbyterian father – seem to have a deep-seated prudishness. On a holiday to Mallorca just a couple of years ago, I decided to strip off for a midnight swim in the pool – only to have all the girls, and Gary, shriek at me to cover up. And this was in the dark, in the middle of the countryside, with no one else around.

But I assert my right to sunbathing, and swimming, topless. After all, no one bats an eyelid when men wander around resorts without a T-shirt on – and, heaven knows, these days some of them have bigger breasts than most of us. Personally, I think there’s quite a strong case for getting over-endowed men to cover up – if you’re going for the eww factor, there’s plenty of it there.

Women’s breasts spend far too much of the year hidden away in often uncomfortable bras. We have to ask ourselves whose agenda it is to get women to keep their breasts covered, and why. My rather uncomfortable hunch is that this is a debate which is driven by the desire of men to keep a part of women’s bodies that they (mistakenly) believe is only for them, covered up. And this, it seems to me, is why our society is shot through with all sorts of unhealthy problems about breasts and their raison d’etre. 

So, in an age when the young seem to have decided to kowtow to the male agenda and cover up, it seems to me that it’s all the more important for we fortysomethings to be flying the flag for feminism. If there’s a half-decent sunny day in Devon this year, I think I owe it to the cause to get my breasts out.

Joanna Moorhead

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Somehow it doesn’t surprise me that now, when barely anybody wears clothes at all, when the Americans have a phrase for drinking in a bar without your top on (“raunch culture”), when nobody has sold a cardigan in Newcastle since they stopped mining coal, that the young people of France have decided it is no longer cool to sunbathe topless.

Sunbathing topless is a French thing, while wandering around entirely naked is a German/Austrian thing. There is no functional difference between the two states of undress – one is not more revealing than the other. Come on, if you cannot guess what is going on under a G-string, then you need to retake your beach Baccalaureat, pal. It’s not like, stripped only to the waist, you have more protection from the sun, or you would be better placed to deal with a shark attack.

There is, however, a world of difference in meaning between total nudity and top-arf-only. The first is a statement of hyper-pragmatism, a bullish: “What do you mean, organs of sex? These are just more body parts, waving robustly for their vitamin D.” Don’t get me wrong, I am no big fan of this kind of nudity either. But in its favour, it lacks vanity. It is all about the fresh air.

Toplessness is not about practicality, it’s about glamour. I emphatically don’t mean “glamour” as in “glamour model”. I mean glamour in the old world sense that one’s own judgment is unimpeachable. If one is topless oneself, toplessness is what’s required. After all, what kind of a person would stare and point and laugh? An unsophisticated person. Probably an English person.

Of course, it would be way more sophisticated if we English could all take our tops off and pretend that didn’t remind us of sex. I’m not saying the French are wrong. I’m just saying that it’s a bit of a coincidence that a sartorial (or anti-sartorial) habit – a cultural more, if you will – makes them look sophisticated and gets them an all-over tan at the same time. It’s all very convenient.

And while we’re on all-over tans, I have never seen the sense of them. OK, let’s imagine that you’re all-over-tanning for your fellow beachgoer. This would only be noticeable if you were topless in the first place. That’s nuts. You might as well shave your head for an all-over head tan.

Yeah, this is all an elaborate excuse; the real reason I deride toplessness is that small matter of what I actually look like. Perhaps it’s unsisterly to say so but taking your top off does rather draw attention to your attributes – and they had better be good.

With toplessness, my first and insurmountable objection is a “how do I look?” thing (“better with a top on” is the answer). This isn’t a gravity thing. I cannot blame the ravages of time. I had this conversation with myself on my French exchange aged 14, and I think the decision I reached was the right one.

Zoe Williams

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Extraditing hacker ‘could be disaster’

Gary McKinnon, who hacked into US military computers, will suffer psychologically if imprisoned there, his lawyers say

“Humanitarian considerations” that have arisen in the case of Asperger’s syndrome sufferer Gary McKinnon mean he should not face trial in the US for hacking into American military computers, the high court heard today.

In a last-ditch attempt to overturn earlier court decisions that the 43-year-old “UFO enthusiast” should be extradited, his lawyers accused prosecutors of ignoring the “disastrous consequences” of facing trial and a possible lengthy prison sentence in an American “supermax” prison.

The case also comes as the Tories are expected to devote an opposition day debate in parliament tomorrow to McKinnons’ extradition, after David Cameron said he was “deeply saddened and worried” about the case.

McKinnon’s barrister, Ed Fitzgerald, told the high court: “The Crown Prosecution Service wrongly failed to address the specific human rights issues, and the humanitarian issue, raised by the claimant’s Aspergers syndrome.

“The CPS, as a public authority, had a duty to consider whether its failure to prosecute [in the UK] has inevitably exposed him to an avoidable and unnecessary risk of serious psychological suffering,” he added.

The hearing comes after McKinnon signed a statement earlier this year admitting he had committed an offence under UK law by hacking into 97 computers belonging to the US navy and Nasa. The incident, which the US government says is the “biggest military hack of all time” and cost more than $700,000 (£430,000) in repairs, has led to talks between UK prosecutors and the US department of justice since charges were originally brought against the 43-year-old in New Jersey in 2002.

Although previous attempts to halt the extradition – which reached the House of Lords last year – failed, McKinnon’s lawyers have since obtained a diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome after consulting two psychiatrists last year.

“Both experts referred to the grave risk to his health if he was extradited to the US, and [autism expert] Professor [Simon] Baron-Cohen referred to the risk to his life,” Fitzgerald said. “[The director of public prosecutions] failed to confront the human rights arguments for prosecutions in this country rather than in the US,” Fitzgerald added.

Both former home secretary Jacqui Smith and the current home secretary, Alan Johnson, have said they would comply with US requests for McKinnon’s extradition, while prosecutors argue that although McKinnon has admitted to “computer misuse” under UK law, it is less serious than the offence of “computer fraud” alleged against him in the US

The CPS, which defended its positiontoday , claims that the damage caused by the offence took place in the US, and that the investigation and most of the witnesses and evidence were located there. In February the director of public prosecutions, Keir Starmer, said there was not enough evidence to try McKinnon in the UK, an argument which McKinnon’s lawyers deny.

“This was inconsistent with the CPS’s own finding that there was sufficient evidence to prosecute,” Fitzgerald said. “McKinnon’s computer hacking conduct all took place in the UK, insofar as he was located here and using a computer in his home in the UK when he gained unauthorised access to the US systems.”

McKinnon, from Wood Green, north London, is described as “vulnerable” and “misguided” by his supporters, who contrast the efforts to extradite him with terrorist suspects who have been kept in the UK.

“I will not give up this fight until the government intervenes to protect my vulnerable son,” McKinnon’s mother, Janis Sharp, said. “When considering the extradition of Abu Hamza, the then home secretary said ‘Had we evidence in this country of a crime committed here then of course the police and the attorney general would have taken action’. Well, if that’s the approach for a convicted terrorist, why not for a gentle, misguided Asperger’s sufferer like Gary?”

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