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Man on the edge

Aidan Gillen made his name playing chancers and scumbags and in his new BBC drama Freefall he portrays a venal City banker

It’s not easy to interview someone who you’ve last seen masturbating. But so it is with Aidan Gillen. As I approach him in the National Film Theatre foyer, I can’t help recalling a scene I’ve just watched. He plays venal City banker Gus in the forthcoming BBC credit-crunch drama Freefall; after clinching some ghastly multi-billion sub-prime deal that ultimately leads to the debt-ridden immiseration of thousands, Gus retreats to the office loos to celebrate in the manner he deems most proper. Never has the cockney rhyming slang “merchant banker” been quite so luridly literalised.

Harold Pinter described Gillen as “dangerous” after seeing him appear in a 2003 Broadway production of The Caretaker. As I walk towards him he wraps and unwraps his legs around each other repeatedly. His whole demeanour is an heroically uncomfortable array of twitches and leers.

“Having talked to a lot of those guys in banking, I realised that high finance is very exciting,” he says as we settle down in the bar. “It probably is terribly exciting to watch these deals fall into place.” But surely not so terribly exciting as your character finds it? “I don’t know. I don’t want to get too wanky about it, but I can totally sympathise with him. There’s pleasure in his life but there’s nobody to share it with. Hence, you know, that scene.”

Gillen is no stranger to, you know, challenging scenes. A decade ago in Queer As Folk, he played Stuart, uttering the infamous lines: “I’m a faggot-ass, fudge-packing, shit-stabbing uphill gardener. I dine at the downstairs restaurant, I dance at the other end of the ballroom. I’m Moses and the parting of the red cheeks . . . And I am not a pervert.” (Gillen, a former Dublin altar boy, recalls watching some sex scenes from Queer As Folk with his mother. “She said: ‘How are they actually doing that?’ And my brother-in-law said: ‘It’s trick photography.’”) His performance was, like the series, widely praised. It was also typical of his astute preference for edgy small-screen dramas in recent years.

Before Queer As Folk came the role of Gypo in Antonia Bird’s Safe. At one point Gypo, a young homeless man, plunges a bottle into his chest in order to get free hospital treatment. More recently, Gillen starred as Baltimore mayor Tommy Carcetti in The Wire, a political reptile who unexpectedly grows a spine and a conscience while in office.

How did Gillen get the role? “They were casting the net wide getting actors who aren’t recognised, so that’s how us lot [he means the British and the Irish – Dominic West and Idris Elba also starred] got into it. It worked. I’d just been in The Caretaker on Broadway, which meant nothing perhaps to TV audiences there, but showed I could do what they wanted. Also many American actors don’t really want to blot their resumés by appearing as scumbags. British actors – and Irish ones too if I’m anything to go by – are less bothered about playing disgusting or even flawed people. They’re often the most interesting roles, after all, but in the US they can be career death.”

Gillen’s resumé, then, might not make much sense to an American actor: it teems with reptiles, chancers and scumbags (he was particularly effective as Mick, the swaggering, volatile pipe dreamer in The Caretaker, and as the slimy real-estate agent Richard Roma in a West End production of David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross). But he is proud of it. “There’s a common thread through Antonia Bird, Queer As Folk and The Wire,” he says. “I have been in control of what I’ve been doing, of the career I’ve put together.” I’m not sure how that control includes, say, his turn in the Jackie Chan-Owen Wilson buddy-chop-socky sequel Shanghai Knights, but let’s not spoil the story.

“I’ve made a point of trying not to play the same part, and of moving between theatre and film and TV. The idea is that by the time you come back you have been away for a year and people have forgotten you. If you like having time off, which I do, that’s a good career strategy. Or at least, it’s my strategy to keep my head together. I keep going back to Ireland to reboot. And then return, showing up as someone else.”

Freefall marks Gillen’s return to British TV drama after too long away. “When I was 19 growing up in Dublin, I wanted to come to London. I’d done a lot of Irish stage work, which was great [in Billy Roche's A Handful of Stars, for instance], but London was a magnet . . . the place where the great TV dramas were made. It was like someone wanting to be in a rock’n'roll band now.”

His fellow Wire star Dominic West has said that the UK lacks quality contemporary drama on TV. He told Radio 4′s Today programme recently: “If you turn on American TV, there’s a huge choice of nothing you want to see and, unfortunately, I think that’s the case here now as well . . . we don’t seem to be able to do contemporary stuff.” Does Gillan agree?

“So-called reality TV, which dominates British channels, is destroying what made it cherishable to me and lots of others in the first place. I loved Alan Clarke, Ken Loach and Alan Bleasdale’s work. In fact the first TV dramas I ever saw were Screen Twos produced by David Thompson, who also produced a lot of Alan Clarke. And now David produces Freefall, so it shows the kind of British TV drama I admired is not quite dead.”

That said, Gillen has now retreated to live in Ireland and works there as much as he can. “I just wanted to get back home. I have always been travelling – New York and London. I want to give my kids a proper home.” He lives with his wife Olivia O’Flanagan in Kerry, and his children Berry and Joe attend a Gaelic-speaking school. “They have been brought up in London but because they have Irish parents they seemed to have an Irish accent – then when they got out to Ireland they sounded like Oliver Twist.”

His latest project is to star in the first Hammer film of the 21st century. Called The Wake Wood, it doesn’t sound like the camp Hammer horror that made films starring Ingrid Pitt and Peter Cushing so diverting 40 years ago. “No, it’s nothing like that. It’s an Irish film written by a guy I know [writer-director David Keating]. It’s the kind of horror film that I like – The Exorcist and The Wicker Man.”

The film tells the story of a couple, Patrick (Gillen) and Louise Daley (Eva Birthistle), whose nine-year-old daughter is killed in a dog attack. To escape their grief, they relocate to a remote rural community. The locals introduce the couple to a secret, pagan ritual that will allow them three more days with Alice before she is returned to the ground for ever. But what will they do when it’s time for Alice to go back? Gillen sensibly won’t divulge.

Why did he take the role? “I like to mix it up and do something completely different.” It was, he says, “literally the smell of the paint” that made him become an actor in the first place: “I was building and painting the sets. I didn’t want to go to college or work in an office or have a nine-to-five job. I knew that quite clearly before I left school.” He is 41 now, and in the intervening years says he “definitely thought about stopping more than twice. I have been doing this since I was very young. If I could wind it back I would have another life – I would like that, but I would also like to have this life too. For me, now, working and children is it. There’s nothing more to life” •

Freefall is on BBC2 tonight at 9pm. The Wake Wood will be released later this year.

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Man on the edge

Aidan Gillen made his name playing chancers and scumbags and in his new BBC drama Freefall he portrays a venal City banker

It’s not easy to interview someone who you’ve last seen masturbating. But so it is with Aidan Gillen. As I approach him in the National Film Theatre foyer, I can’t help recalling a scene I’ve just watched. He plays venal City banker Gus in the forthcoming BBC credit-crunch drama Freefall; after clinching some ghastly multi-billion sub-prime deal that ultimately leads to the debt-ridden immiseration of thousands, Gus retreats to the office loos to celebrate in the manner he deems most proper. Never has the cockney rhyming slang “merchant banker” been quite so luridly literalised.

Harold Pinter described Gillen as “dangerous” after seeing him appear in a 2003 Broadway production of The Caretaker. As I walk towards him he wraps and unwraps his legs around each other repeatedly. His whole demeanour is an heroically uncomfortable array of twitches and leers.

“Having talked to a lot of those guys in banking, I realised that high finance is very exciting,” he says as we settle down in the bar. “It probably is terribly exciting to watch these deals fall into place.” But surely not so terribly exciting as your character finds it? “I don’t know. I don’t want to get too wanky about it, but I can totally sympathise with him. There’s pleasure in his life but there’s nobody to share it with. Hence, you know, that scene.”

Gillen is no stranger to, you know, challenging scenes. A decade ago in Queer As Folk, he played Stuart, uttering the infamous lines: “I’m a faggot-ass, fudge-packing, shit-stabbing uphill gardener. I dine at the downstairs restaurant, I dance at the other end of the ballroom. I’m Moses and the parting of the red cheeks . . . And I am not a pervert.” (Gillen, a former Dublin altar boy, recalls watching some sex scenes from Queer As Folk with his mother. “She said: ‘How are they actually doing that?’ And my brother-in-law said: ‘It’s trick photography.’”) His performance was, like the series, widely praised. It was also typical of his astute preference for edgy small-screen dramas in recent years.

Before Queer As Folk came the role of Gypo in Antonia Bird’s Safe. At one point Gypo, a young homeless man, plunges a bottle into his chest in order to get free hospital treatment. More recently, Gillen starred as Baltimore mayor Tommy Carcetti in The Wire, a political reptile who unexpectedly grows a spine and a conscience while in office.

How did Gillen get the role? “They were casting the net wide getting actors who aren’t recognised, so that’s how us lot [he means the British and the Irish – Dominic West and Idris Elba also starred] got into it. It worked. I’d just been in The Caretaker on Broadway, which meant nothing perhaps to TV audiences there, but showed I could do what they wanted. Also many American actors don’t really want to blot their resumés by appearing as scumbags. British actors – and Irish ones too if I’m anything to go by – are less bothered about playing disgusting or even flawed people. They’re often the most interesting roles, after all, but in the US they can be career death.”

Gillen’s resumé, then, might not make much sense to an American actor: it teems with reptiles, chancers and scumbags (he was particularly effective as Mick, the swaggering, volatile pipe dreamer in The Caretaker, and as the slimy real-estate agent Richard Roma in a West End production of David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross). But he is proud of it. “There’s a common thread through Antonia Bird, Queer As Folk and The Wire,” he says. “I have been in control of what I’ve been doing, of the career I’ve put together.” I’m not sure how that control includes, say, his turn in the Jackie Chan-Owen Wilson buddy-chop-socky sequel Shanghai Knights, but let’s not spoil the story.

“I’ve made a point of trying not to play the same part, and of moving between theatre and film and TV. The idea is that by the time you come back you have been away for a year and people have forgotten you. If you like having time off, which I do, that’s a good career strategy. Or at least, it’s my strategy to keep my head together. I keep going back to Ireland to reboot. And then return, showing up as someone else.”

Freefall marks Gillen’s return to British TV drama after too long away. “When I was 19 growing up in Dublin, I wanted to come to London. I’d done a lot of Irish stage work, which was great [in Billy Roche's A Handful of Stars, for instance], but London was a magnet . . . the place where the great TV dramas were made. It was like someone wanting to be in a rock’n'roll band now.”

His fellow Wire star Dominic West has said that the UK lacks quality contemporary drama on TV. He told Radio 4′s Today programme recently: “If you turn on American TV, there’s a huge choice of nothing you want to see and, unfortunately, I think that’s the case here now as well . . . we don’t seem to be able to do contemporary stuff.” Does Gillan agree?

“So-called reality TV, which dominates British channels, is destroying what made it cherishable to me and lots of others in the first place. I loved Alan Clarke, Ken Loach and Alan Bleasdale’s work. In fact the first TV dramas I ever saw were Screen Twos produced by David Thompson, who also produced a lot of Alan Clarke. And now David produces Freefall, so it shows the kind of British TV drama I admired is not quite dead.”

That said, Gillen has now retreated to live in Ireland and works there as much as he can. “I just wanted to get back home. I have always been travelling – New York and London. I want to give my kids a proper home.” He lives with his wife Olivia O’Flanagan in Kerry, and his children Berry and Joe attend a Gaelic-speaking school. “They have been brought up in London but because they have Irish parents they seemed to have an Irish accent – then when they got out to Ireland they sounded like Oliver Twist.”

His latest project is to star in the first Hammer film of the 21st century. Called The Wake Wood, it doesn’t sound like the camp Hammer horror that made films starring Ingrid Pitt and Peter Cushing so diverting 40 years ago. “No, it’s nothing like that. It’s an Irish film written by a guy I know [writer-director David Keating]. It’s the kind of horror film that I like – The Exorcist and The Wicker Man.”

The film tells the story of a couple, Patrick (Gillen) and Louise Daley (Eva Birthistle), whose nine-year-old daughter is killed in a dog attack. To escape their grief, they relocate to a remote rural community. The locals introduce the couple to a secret, pagan ritual that will allow them three more days with Alice before she is returned to the ground for ever. But what will they do when it’s time for Alice to go back? Gillen sensibly won’t divulge.

Why did he take the role? “I like to mix it up and do something completely different.” It was, he says, “literally the smell of the paint” that made him become an actor in the first place: “I was building and painting the sets. I didn’t want to go to college or work in an office or have a nine-to-five job. I knew that quite clearly before I left school.” He is 41 now, and in the intervening years says he “definitely thought about stopping more than twice. I have been doing this since I was very young. If I could wind it back I would have another life – I would like that, but I would also like to have this life too. For me, now, working and children is it. There’s nothing more to life” •

Freefall is on BBC2 tonight at 9pm. The Wake Wood will be released later this year.

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Man on the edge

Aidan Gillen made his name playing chancers and scumbags and in his new BBC drama Freefall he portrays a venal City banker

It’s not easy to interview someone who you’ve last seen masturbating. But so it is with Aidan Gillen. As I approach him in the National Film Theatre foyer, I can’t help recalling a scene I’ve just watched. He plays venal City banker Gus in the forthcoming BBC credit-crunch drama Freefall; after clinching some ghastly multi-billion sub-prime deal that ultimately leads to the debt-ridden immiseration of thousands, Gus retreats to the office loos to celebrate in the manner he deems most proper. Never has the cockney rhyming slang “merchant banker” been quite so luridly literalised.

Harold Pinter described Gillen as “dangerous” after seeing him appear in a 2003 Broadway production of The Caretaker. As I walk towards him he wraps and unwraps his legs around each other repeatedly. His whole demeanour is an heroically uncomfortable array of twitches and leers.

“Having talked to a lot of those guys in banking, I realised that high finance is very exciting,” he says as we settle down in the bar. “It probably is terribly exciting to watch these deals fall into place.” But surely not so terribly exciting as your character finds it? “I don’t know. I don’t want to get too wanky about it, but I can totally sympathise with him. There’s pleasure in his life but there’s nobody to share it with. Hence, you know, that scene.”

Gillen is no stranger to, you know, challenging scenes. A decade ago in Queer As Folk, he played Stuart, uttering the infamous lines: “I’m a faggot-ass, fudge-packing, shit-stabbing uphill gardener. I dine at the downstairs restaurant, I dance at the other end of the ballroom. I’m Moses and the parting of the red cheeks . . . And I am not a pervert.” (Gillen, a former Dublin altar boy, recalls watching some sex scenes from Queer As Folk with his mother. “She said: ‘How are they actually doing that?’ And my brother-in-law said: ‘It’s trick photography.’”) His performance was, like the series, widely praised. It was also typical of his astute preference for edgy small-screen dramas in recent years.

Before Queer As Folk came the role of Gypo in Antonia Bird’s Safe. At one point Gypo, a young homeless man, plunges a bottle into his chest in order to get free hospital treatment. More recently, Gillen starred as Baltimore mayor Tommy Carcetti in The Wire, a political reptile who unexpectedly grows a spine and a conscience while in office.

How did Gillen get the role? “They were casting the net wide getting actors who aren’t recognised, so that’s how us lot [he means the British and the Irish – Dominic West and Idris Elba also starred] got into it. It worked. I’d just been in The Caretaker on Broadway, which meant nothing perhaps to TV audiences there, but showed I could do what they wanted. Also many American actors don’t really want to blot their resumés by appearing as scumbags. British actors – and Irish ones too if I’m anything to go by – are less bothered about playing disgusting or even flawed people. They’re often the most interesting roles, after all, but in the US they can be career death.”

Gillen’s resumé, then, might not make much sense to an American actor: it teems with reptiles, chancers and scumbags (he was particularly effective as Mick, the swaggering, volatile pipe dreamer in The Caretaker, and as the slimy real-estate agent Richard Roma in a West End production of David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross). But he is proud of it. “There’s a common thread through Antonia Bird, Queer As Folk and The Wire,” he says. “I have been in control of what I’ve been doing, of the career I’ve put together.” I’m not sure how that control includes, say, his turn in the Jackie Chan-Owen Wilson buddy-chop-socky sequel Shanghai Knights, but let’s not spoil the story.

“I’ve made a point of trying not to play the same part, and of moving between theatre and film and TV. The idea is that by the time you come back you have been away for a year and people have forgotten you. If you like having time off, which I do, that’s a good career strategy. Or at least, it’s my strategy to keep my head together. I keep going back to Ireland to reboot. And then return, showing up as someone else.”

Freefall marks Gillen’s return to British TV drama after too long away. “When I was 19 growing up in Dublin, I wanted to come to London. I’d done a lot of Irish stage work, which was great [in Billy Roche's A Handful of Stars, for instance], but London was a magnet . . . the place where the great TV dramas were made. It was like someone wanting to be in a rock’n'roll band now.”

His fellow Wire star Dominic West has said that the UK lacks quality contemporary drama on TV. He told Radio 4′s Today programme recently: “If you turn on American TV, there’s a huge choice of nothing you want to see and, unfortunately, I think that’s the case here now as well . . . we don’t seem to be able to do contemporary stuff.” Does Gillan agree?

“So-called reality TV, which dominates British channels, is destroying what made it cherishable to me and lots of others in the first place. I loved Alan Clarke, Ken Loach and Alan Bleasdale’s work. In fact the first TV dramas I ever saw were Screen Twos produced by David Thompson, who also produced a lot of Alan Clarke. And now David produces Freefall, so it shows the kind of British TV drama I admired is not quite dead.”

That said, Gillen has now retreated to live in Ireland and works there as much as he can. “I just wanted to get back home. I have always been travelling – New York and London. I want to give my kids a proper home.” He lives with his wife Olivia O’Flanagan in Kerry, and his children Berry and Joe attend a Gaelic-speaking school. “They have been brought up in London but because they have Irish parents they seemed to have an Irish accent – then when they got out to Ireland they sounded like Oliver Twist.”

His latest project is to star in the first Hammer film of the 21st century. Called The Wake Wood, it doesn’t sound like the camp Hammer horror that made films starring Ingrid Pitt and Peter Cushing so diverting 40 years ago. “No, it’s nothing like that. It’s an Irish film written by a guy I know [writer-director David Keating]. It’s the kind of horror film that I like – The Exorcist and The Wicker Man.”

The film tells the story of a couple, Patrick (Gillen) and Louise Daley (Eva Birthistle), whose nine-year-old daughter is killed in a dog attack. To escape their grief, they relocate to a remote rural community. The locals introduce the couple to a secret, pagan ritual that will allow them three more days with Alice before she is returned to the ground for ever. But what will they do when it’s time for Alice to go back? Gillen sensibly won’t divulge.

Why did he take the role? “I like to mix it up and do something completely different.” It was, he says, “literally the smell of the paint” that made him become an actor in the first place: “I was building and painting the sets. I didn’t want to go to college or work in an office or have a nine-to-five job. I knew that quite clearly before I left school.” He is 41 now, and in the intervening years says he “definitely thought about stopping more than twice. I have been doing this since I was very young. If I could wind it back I would have another life – I would like that, but I would also like to have this life too. For me, now, working and children is it. There’s nothing more to life” •

Freefall is on BBC2 tonight at 9pm. The Wake Wood will be released later this year.

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Man on the edge

Aidan Gillen made his name playing chancers and scumbags and in his new BBC drama Freefall he portrays a venal City banker

It’s not easy to interview someone who you’ve last seen masturbating. But so it is with Aidan Gillen. As I approach him in the National Film Theatre foyer, I can’t help recalling a scene I’ve just watched. He plays venal City banker Gus in the forthcoming BBC credit-crunch drama Freefall; after clinching some ghastly multi-billion sub-prime deal that ultimately leads to the debt-ridden immiseration of thousands, Gus retreats to the office loos to celebrate in the manner he deems most proper. Never has the cockney rhyming slang “merchant banker” been quite so luridly literalised.

Harold Pinter described Gillen as “dangerous” after seeing him appear in a 2003 Broadway production of The Caretaker. As I walk towards him he wraps and unwraps his legs around each other repeatedly. His whole demeanour is an heroically uncomfortable array of twitches and leers.

“Having talked to a lot of those guys in banking, I realised that high finance is very exciting,” he says as we settle down in the bar. “It probably is terribly exciting to watch these deals fall into place.” But surely not so terribly exciting as your character finds it? “I don’t know. I don’t want to get too wanky about it, but I can totally sympathise with him. There’s pleasure in his life but there’s nobody to share it with. Hence, you know, that scene.”

Gillen is no stranger to, you know, challenging scenes. A decade ago in Queer As Folk, he played Stuart, uttering the infamous lines: “I’m a faggot-ass, fudge-packing, shit-stabbing uphill gardener. I dine at the downstairs restaurant, I dance at the other end of the ballroom. I’m Moses and the parting of the red cheeks . . . And I am not a pervert.” (Gillen, a former Dublin altar boy, recalls watching some sex scenes from Queer As Folk with his mother. “She said: ‘How are they actually doing that?’ And my brother-in-law said: ‘It’s trick photography.’”) His performance was, like the series, widely praised. It was also typical of his astute preference for edgy small-screen dramas in recent years.

Before Queer As Folk came the role of Gypo in Antonia Bird’s Safe. At one point Gypo, a young homeless man, plunges a bottle into his chest in order to get free hospital treatment. More recently, Gillen starred as Baltimore mayor Tommy Carcetti in The Wire, a political reptile who unexpectedly grows a spine and a conscience while in office.

How did Gillen get the role? “They were casting the net wide getting actors who aren’t recognised, so that’s how us lot [he means the British and the Irish – Dominic West and Idris Elba also starred] got into it. It worked. I’d just been in The Caretaker on Broadway, which meant nothing perhaps to TV audiences there, but showed I could do what they wanted. Also many American actors don’t really want to blot their resumés by appearing as scumbags. British actors – and Irish ones too if I’m anything to go by – are less bothered about playing disgusting or even flawed people. They’re often the most interesting roles, after all, but in the US they can be career death.”

Gillen’s resumé, then, might not make much sense to an American actor: it teems with reptiles, chancers and scumbags (he was particularly effective as Mick, the swaggering, volatile pipe dreamer in The Caretaker, and as the slimy real-estate agent Richard Roma in a West End production of David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross). But he is proud of it. “There’s a common thread through Antonia Bird, Queer As Folk and The Wire,” he says. “I have been in control of what I’ve been doing, of the career I’ve put together.” I’m not sure how that control includes, say, his turn in the Jackie Chan-Owen Wilson buddy-chop-socky sequel Shanghai Knights, but let’s not spoil the story.

“I’ve made a point of trying not to play the same part, and of moving between theatre and film and TV. The idea is that by the time you come back you have been away for a year and people have forgotten you. If you like having time off, which I do, that’s a good career strategy. Or at least, it’s my strategy to keep my head together. I keep going back to Ireland to reboot. And then return, showing up as someone else.”

Freefall marks Gillen’s return to British TV drama after too long away. “When I was 19 growing up in Dublin, I wanted to come to London. I’d done a lot of Irish stage work, which was great [in Billy Roche's A Handful of Stars, for instance], but London was a magnet . . . the place where the great TV dramas were made. It was like someone wanting to be in a rock’n'roll band now.”

His fellow Wire star Dominic West has said that the UK lacks quality contemporary drama on TV. He told Radio 4′s Today programme recently: “If you turn on American TV, there’s a huge choice of nothing you want to see and, unfortunately, I think that’s the case here now as well . . . we don’t seem to be able to do contemporary stuff.” Does Gillan agree?

“So-called reality TV, which dominates British channels, is destroying what made it cherishable to me and lots of others in the first place. I loved Alan Clarke, Ken Loach and Alan Bleasdale’s work. In fact the first TV dramas I ever saw were Screen Twos produced by David Thompson, who also produced a lot of Alan Clarke. And now David produces Freefall, so it shows the kind of British TV drama I admired is not quite dead.”

That said, Gillen has now retreated to live in Ireland and works there as much as he can. “I just wanted to get back home. I have always been travelling – New York and London. I want to give my kids a proper home.” He lives with his wife Olivia O’Flanagan in Kerry, and his children Berry and Joe attend a Gaelic-speaking school. “They have been brought up in London but because they have Irish parents they seemed to have an Irish accent – then when they got out to Ireland they sounded like Oliver Twist.”

His latest project is to star in the first Hammer film of the 21st century. Called The Wake Wood, it doesn’t sound like the camp Hammer horror that made films starring Ingrid Pitt and Peter Cushing so diverting 40 years ago. “No, it’s nothing like that. It’s an Irish film written by a guy I know [writer-director David Keating]. It’s the kind of horror film that I like – The Exorcist and The Wicker Man.”

The film tells the story of a couple, Patrick (Gillen) and Louise Daley (Eva Birthistle), whose nine-year-old daughter is killed in a dog attack. To escape their grief, they relocate to a remote rural community. The locals introduce the couple to a secret, pagan ritual that will allow them three more days with Alice before she is returned to the ground for ever. But what will they do when it’s time for Alice to go back? Gillen sensibly won’t divulge.

Why did he take the role? “I like to mix it up and do something completely different.” It was, he says, “literally the smell of the paint” that made him become an actor in the first place: “I was building and painting the sets. I didn’t want to go to college or work in an office or have a nine-to-five job. I knew that quite clearly before I left school.” He is 41 now, and in the intervening years says he “definitely thought about stopping more than twice. I have been doing this since I was very young. If I could wind it back I would have another life – I would like that, but I would also like to have this life too. For me, now, working and children is it. There’s nothing more to life” •

Freefall is on BBC2 tonight at 9pm. The Wake Wood will be released later this year.

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Man on the edge

Aidan Gillen made his name playing chancers and scumbags and in his new BBC drama Freefall he portrays a venal City banker

It’s not easy to interview someone who you’ve last seen masturbating. But so it is with Aidan Gillen. As I approach him in the National Film Theatre foyer, I can’t help recalling a scene I’ve just watched. He plays venal City banker Gus in the forthcoming BBC credit-crunch drama Freefall; after clinching some ghastly multi-billion sub-prime deal that ultimately leads to the debt-ridden immiseration of thousands, Gus retreats to the office loos to celebrate in the manner he deems most proper. Never has the cockney rhyming slang “merchant banker” been quite so luridly literalised.

Harold Pinter described Gillen as “dangerous” after seeing him appear in a 2003 Broadway production of The Caretaker. As I walk towards him he wraps and unwraps his legs around each other repeatedly. His whole demeanour is an heroically uncomfortable array of twitches and leers.

“Having talked to a lot of those guys in banking, I realised that high finance is very exciting,” he says as we settle down in the bar. “It probably is terribly exciting to watch these deals fall into place.” But surely not so terribly exciting as your character finds it? “I don’t know. I don’t want to get too wanky about it, but I can totally sympathise with him. There’s pleasure in his life but there’s nobody to share it with. Hence, you know, that scene.”

Gillen is no stranger to, you know, challenging scenes. A decade ago in Queer As Folk, he played Stuart, uttering the infamous lines: “I’m a faggot-ass, fudge-packing, shit-stabbing uphill gardener. I dine at the downstairs restaurant, I dance at the other end of the ballroom. I’m Moses and the parting of the red cheeks . . . And I am not a pervert.” (Gillen, a former Dublin altar boy, recalls watching some sex scenes from Queer As Folk with his mother. “She said: ‘How are they actually doing that?’ And my brother-in-law said: ‘It’s trick photography.’”) His performance was, like the series, widely praised. It was also typical of his astute preference for edgy small-screen dramas in recent years.

Before Queer As Folk came the role of Gypo in Antonia Bird’s Safe. At one point Gypo, a young homeless man, plunges a bottle into his chest in order to get free hospital treatment. More recently, Gillen starred as Baltimore mayor Tommy Carcetti in The Wire, a political reptile who unexpectedly grows a spine and a conscience while in office.

How did Gillen get the role? “They were casting the net wide getting actors who aren’t recognised, so that’s how us lot [he means the British and the Irish – Dominic West and Idris Elba also starred] got into it. It worked. I’d just been in The Caretaker on Broadway, which meant nothing perhaps to TV audiences there, but showed I could do what they wanted. Also many American actors don’t really want to blot their resumés by appearing as scumbags. British actors – and Irish ones too if I’m anything to go by – are less bothered about playing disgusting or even flawed people. They’re often the most interesting roles, after all, but in the US they can be career death.”

Gillen’s resumé, then, might not make much sense to an American actor: it teems with reptiles, chancers and scumbags (he was particularly effective as Mick, the swaggering, volatile pipe dreamer in The Caretaker, and as the slimy real-estate agent Richard Roma in a West End production of David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross). But he is proud of it. “There’s a common thread through Antonia Bird, Queer As Folk and The Wire,” he says. “I have been in control of what I’ve been doing, of the career I’ve put together.” I’m not sure how that control includes, say, his turn in the Jackie Chan-Owen Wilson buddy-chop-socky sequel Shanghai Knights, but let’s not spoil the story.

“I’ve made a point of trying not to play the same part, and of moving between theatre and film and TV. The idea is that by the time you come back you have been away for a year and people have forgotten you. If you like having time off, which I do, that’s a good career strategy. Or at least, it’s my strategy to keep my head together. I keep going back to Ireland to reboot. And then return, showing up as someone else.”

Freefall marks Gillen’s return to British TV drama after too long away. “When I was 19 growing up in Dublin, I wanted to come to London. I’d done a lot of Irish stage work, which was great [in Billy Roche's A Handful of Stars, for instance], but London was a magnet . . . the place where the great TV dramas were made. It was like someone wanting to be in a rock’n'roll band now.”

His fellow Wire star Dominic West has said that the UK lacks quality contemporary drama on TV. He told Radio 4′s Today programme recently: “If you turn on American TV, there’s a huge choice of nothing you want to see and, unfortunately, I think that’s the case here now as well . . . we don’t seem to be able to do contemporary stuff.” Does Gillan agree?

“So-called reality TV, which dominates British channels, is destroying what made it cherishable to me and lots of others in the first place. I loved Alan Clarke, Ken Loach and Alan Bleasdale’s work. In fact the first TV dramas I ever saw were Screen Twos produced by David Thompson, who also produced a lot of Alan Clarke. And now David produces Freefall, so it shows the kind of British TV drama I admired is not quite dead.”

That said, Gillen has now retreated to live in Ireland and works there as much as he can. “I just wanted to get back home. I have always been travelling – New York and London. I want to give my kids a proper home.” He lives with his wife Olivia O’Flanagan in Kerry, and his children Berry and Joe attend a Gaelic-speaking school. “They have been brought up in London but because they have Irish parents they seemed to have an Irish accent – then when they got out to Ireland they sounded like Oliver Twist.”

His latest project is to star in the first Hammer film of the 21st century. Called The Wake Wood, it doesn’t sound like the camp Hammer horror that made films starring Ingrid Pitt and Peter Cushing so diverting 40 years ago. “No, it’s nothing like that. It’s an Irish film written by a guy I know [writer-director David Keating]. It’s the kind of horror film that I like – The Exorcist and The Wicker Man.”

The film tells the story of a couple, Patrick (Gillen) and Louise Daley (Eva Birthistle), whose nine-year-old daughter is killed in a dog attack. To escape their grief, they relocate to a remote rural community. The locals introduce the couple to a secret, pagan ritual that will allow them three more days with Alice before she is returned to the ground for ever. But what will they do when it’s time for Alice to go back? Gillen sensibly won’t divulge.

Why did he take the role? “I like to mix it up and do something completely different.” It was, he says, “literally the smell of the paint” that made him become an actor in the first place: “I was building and painting the sets. I didn’t want to go to college or work in an office or have a nine-to-five job. I knew that quite clearly before I left school.” He is 41 now, and in the intervening years says he “definitely thought about stopping more than twice. I have been doing this since I was very young. If I could wind it back I would have another life – I would like that, but I would also like to have this life too. For me, now, working and children is it. There’s nothing more to life” •

Freefall is on BBC2 tonight at 9pm. The Wake Wood will be released later this year.

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Man on the edge

Aidan Gillen made his name playing chancers and scumbags and in his new BBC drama Freefall he portrays a venal City banker

It’s not easy to interview someone who you’ve last seen masturbating. But so it is with Aidan Gillen. As I approach him in the National Film Theatre foyer, I can’t help recalling a scene I’ve just watched. He plays venal City banker Gus in the forthcoming BBC credit-crunch drama Freefall; after clinching some ghastly multi-billion sub-prime deal that ultimately leads to the debt-ridden immiseration of thousands, Gus retreats to the office loos to celebrate in the manner he deems most proper. Never has the cockney rhyming slang “merchant banker” been quite so luridly literalised.

Harold Pinter described Gillen as “dangerous” after seeing him appear in a 2003 Broadway production of The Caretaker. As I walk towards him he wraps and unwraps his legs around each other repeatedly. His whole demeanour is an heroically uncomfortable array of twitches and leers.

“Having talked to a lot of those guys in banking, I realised that high finance is very exciting,” he says as we settle down in the bar. “It probably is terribly exciting to watch these deals fall into place.” But surely not so terribly exciting as your character finds it? “I don’t know. I don’t want to get too wanky about it, but I can totally sympathise with him. There’s pleasure in his life but there’s nobody to share it with. Hence, you know, that scene.”

Gillen is no stranger to, you know, challenging scenes. A decade ago in Queer As Folk, he played Stuart, uttering the infamous lines: “I’m a faggot-ass, fudge-packing, shit-stabbing uphill gardener. I dine at the downstairs restaurant, I dance at the other end of the ballroom. I’m Moses and the parting of the red cheeks . . . And I am not a pervert.” (Gillen, a former Dublin altar boy, recalls watching some sex scenes from Queer As Folk with his mother. “She said: ‘How are they actually doing that?’ And my brother-in-law said: ‘It’s trick photography.’”) His performance was, like the series, widely praised. It was also typical of his astute preference for edgy small-screen dramas in recent years.

Before Queer As Folk came the role of Gypo in Antonia Bird’s Safe. At one point Gypo, a young homeless man, plunges a bottle into his chest in order to get free hospital treatment. More recently, Gillen starred as Baltimore mayor Tommy Carcetti in The Wire, a political reptile who unexpectedly grows a spine and a conscience while in office.

How did Gillen get the role? “They were casting the net wide getting actors who aren’t recognised, so that’s how us lot [he means the British and the Irish – Dominic West and Idris Elba also starred] got into it. It worked. I’d just been in The Caretaker on Broadway, which meant nothing perhaps to TV audiences there, but showed I could do what they wanted. Also many American actors don’t really want to blot their resumés by appearing as scumbags. British actors – and Irish ones too if I’m anything to go by – are less bothered about playing disgusting or even flawed people. They’re often the most interesting roles, after all, but in the US they can be career death.”

Gillen’s resumé, then, might not make much sense to an American actor: it teems with reptiles, chancers and scumbags (he was particularly effective as Mick, the swaggering, volatile pipe dreamer in The Caretaker, and as the slimy real-estate agent Richard Roma in a West End production of David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross). But he is proud of it. “There’s a common thread through Antonia Bird, Queer As Folk and The Wire,” he says. “I have been in control of what I’ve been doing, of the career I’ve put together.” I’m not sure how that control includes, say, his turn in the Jackie Chan-Owen Wilson buddy-chop-socky sequel Shanghai Knights, but let’s not spoil the story.

“I’ve made a point of trying not to play the same part, and of moving between theatre and film and TV. The idea is that by the time you come back you have been away for a year and people have forgotten you. If you like having time off, which I do, that’s a good career strategy. Or at least, it’s my strategy to keep my head together. I keep going back to Ireland to reboot. And then return, showing up as someone else.”

Freefall marks Gillen’s return to British TV drama after too long away. “When I was 19 growing up in Dublin, I wanted to come to London. I’d done a lot of Irish stage work, which was great [in Billy Roche's A Handful of Stars, for instance], but London was a magnet . . . the place where the great TV dramas were made. It was like someone wanting to be in a rock’n'roll band now.”

His fellow Wire star Dominic West has said that the UK lacks quality contemporary drama on TV. He told Radio 4′s Today programme recently: “If you turn on American TV, there’s a huge choice of nothing you want to see and, unfortunately, I think that’s the case here now as well . . . we don’t seem to be able to do contemporary stuff.” Does Gillan agree?

“So-called reality TV, which dominates British channels, is destroying what made it cherishable to me and lots of others in the first place. I loved Alan Clarke, Ken Loach and Alan Bleasdale’s work. In fact the first TV dramas I ever saw were Screen Twos produced by David Thompson, who also produced a lot of Alan Clarke. And now David produces Freefall, so it shows the kind of British TV drama I admired is not quite dead.”

That said, Gillen has now retreated to live in Ireland and works there as much as he can. “I just wanted to get back home. I have always been travelling – New York and London. I want to give my kids a proper home.” He lives with his wife Olivia O’Flanagan in Kerry, and his children Berry and Joe attend a Gaelic-speaking school. “They have been brought up in London but because they have Irish parents they seemed to have an Irish accent – then when they got out to Ireland they sounded like Oliver Twist.”

His latest project is to star in the first Hammer film of the 21st century. Called The Wake Wood, it doesn’t sound like the camp Hammer horror that made films starring Ingrid Pitt and Peter Cushing so diverting 40 years ago. “No, it’s nothing like that. It’s an Irish film written by a guy I know [writer-director David Keating]. It’s the kind of horror film that I like – The Exorcist and The Wicker Man.”

The film tells the story of a couple, Patrick (Gillen) and Louise Daley (Eva Birthistle), whose nine-year-old daughter is killed in a dog attack. To escape their grief, they relocate to a remote rural community. The locals introduce the couple to a secret, pagan ritual that will allow them three more days with Alice before she is returned to the ground for ever. But what will they do when it’s time for Alice to go back? Gillen sensibly won’t divulge.

Why did he take the role? “I like to mix it up and do something completely different.” It was, he says, “literally the smell of the paint” that made him become an actor in the first place: “I was building and painting the sets. I didn’t want to go to college or work in an office or have a nine-to-five job. I knew that quite clearly before I left school.” He is 41 now, and in the intervening years says he “definitely thought about stopping more than twice. I have been doing this since I was very young. If I could wind it back I would have another life – I would like that, but I would also like to have this life too. For me, now, working and children is it. There’s nothing more to life” •

Freefall is on BBC2 tonight at 9pm. The Wake Wood will be released later this year.

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Man on the edge

Aidan Gillen made his name playing chancers and scumbags and in his new BBC drama Freefall he portrays a venal City banker

It’s not easy to interview someone who you’ve last seen masturbating. But so it is with Aidan Gillen. As I approach him in the National Film Theatre foyer, I can’t help recalling a scene I’ve just watched. He plays venal City banker Gus in the forthcoming BBC credit-crunch drama Freefall; after clinching some ghastly multi-billion sub-prime deal that ultimately leads to the debt-ridden immiseration of thousands, Gus retreats to the office loos to celebrate in the manner he deems most proper. Never has the cockney rhyming slang “merchant banker” been quite so luridly literalised.

Harold Pinter described Gillen as “dangerous” after seeing him appear in a 2003 Broadway production of The Caretaker. As I walk towards him he wraps and unwraps his legs around each other repeatedly. His whole demeanour is an heroically uncomfortable array of twitches and leers.

“Having talked to a lot of those guys in banking, I realised that high finance is very exciting,” he says as we settle down in the bar. “It probably is terribly exciting to watch these deals fall into place.” But surely not so terribly exciting as your character finds it? “I don’t know. I don’t want to get too wanky about it, but I can totally sympathise with him. There’s pleasure in his life but there’s nobody to share it with. Hence, you know, that scene.”

Gillen is no stranger to, you know, challenging scenes. A decade ago in Queer As Folk, he played Stuart, uttering the infamous lines: “I’m a faggot-ass, fudge-packing, shit-stabbing uphill gardener. I dine at the downstairs restaurant, I dance at the other end of the ballroom. I’m Moses and the parting of the red cheeks . . . And I am not a pervert.” (Gillen, a former Dublin altar boy, recalls watching some sex scenes from Queer As Folk with his mother. “She said: ‘How are they actually doing that?’ And my brother-in-law said: ‘It’s trick photography.’”) His performance was, like the series, widely praised. It was also typical of his astute preference for edgy small-screen dramas in recent years.

Before Queer As Folk came the role of Gypo in Antonia Bird’s Safe. At one point Gypo, a young homeless man, plunges a bottle into his chest in order to get free hospital treatment. More recently, Gillen starred as Baltimore mayor Tommy Carcetti in The Wire, a political reptile who unexpectedly grows a spine and a conscience while in office.

How did Gillen get the role? “They were casting the net wide getting actors who aren’t recognised, so that’s how us lot [he means the British and the Irish – Dominic West and Idris Elba also starred] got into it. It worked. I’d just been in The Caretaker on Broadway, which meant nothing perhaps to TV audiences there, but showed I could do what they wanted. Also many American actors don’t really want to blot their resumés by appearing as scumbags. British actors – and Irish ones too if I’m anything to go by – are less bothered about playing disgusting or even flawed people. They’re often the most interesting roles, after all, but in the US they can be career death.”

Gillen’s resumé, then, might not make much sense to an American actor: it teems with reptiles, chancers and scumbags (he was particularly effective as Mick, the swaggering, volatile pipe dreamer in The Caretaker, and as the slimy real-estate agent Richard Roma in a West End production of David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross). But he is proud of it. “There’s a common thread through Antonia Bird, Queer As Folk and The Wire,” he says. “I have been in control of what I’ve been doing, of the career I’ve put together.” I’m not sure how that control includes, say, his turn in the Jackie Chan-Owen Wilson buddy-chop-socky sequel Shanghai Knights, but let’s not spoil the story.

“I’ve made a point of trying not to play the same part, and of moving between theatre and film and TV. The idea is that by the time you come back you have been away for a year and people have forgotten you. If you like having time off, which I do, that’s a good career strategy. Or at least, it’s my strategy to keep my head together. I keep going back to Ireland to reboot. And then return, showing up as someone else.”

Freefall marks Gillen’s return to British TV drama after too long away. “When I was 19 growing up in Dublin, I wanted to come to London. I’d done a lot of Irish stage work, which was great [in Billy Roche's A Handful of Stars, for instance], but London was a magnet . . . the place where the great TV dramas were made. It was like someone wanting to be in a rock’n'roll band now.”

His fellow Wire star Dominic West has said that the UK lacks quality contemporary drama on TV. He told Radio 4′s Today programme recently: “If you turn on American TV, there’s a huge choice of nothing you want to see and, unfortunately, I think that’s the case here now as well . . . we don’t seem to be able to do contemporary stuff.” Does Gillan agree?

“So-called reality TV, which dominates British channels, is destroying what made it cherishable to me and lots of others in the first place. I loved Alan Clarke, Ken Loach and Alan Bleasdale’s work. In fact the first TV dramas I ever saw were Screen Twos produced by David Thompson, who also produced a lot of Alan Clarke. And now David produces Freefall, so it shows the kind of British TV drama I admired is not quite dead.”

That said, Gillen has now retreated to live in Ireland and works there as much as he can. “I just wanted to get back home. I have always been travelling – New York and London. I want to give my kids a proper home.” He lives with his wife Olivia O’Flanagan in Kerry, and his children Berry and Joe attend a Gaelic-speaking school. “They have been brought up in London but because they have Irish parents they seemed to have an Irish accent – then when they got out to Ireland they sounded like Oliver Twist.”

His latest project is to star in the first Hammer film of the 21st century. Called The Wake Wood, it doesn’t sound like the camp Hammer horror that made films starring Ingrid Pitt and Peter Cushing so diverting 40 years ago. “No, it’s nothing like that. It’s an Irish film written by a guy I know [writer-director David Keating]. It’s the kind of horror film that I like – The Exorcist and The Wicker Man.”

The film tells the story of a couple, Patrick (Gillen) and Louise Daley (Eva Birthistle), whose nine-year-old daughter is killed in a dog attack. To escape their grief, they relocate to a remote rural community. The locals introduce the couple to a secret, pagan ritual that will allow them three more days with Alice before she is returned to the ground for ever. But what will they do when it’s time for Alice to go back? Gillen sensibly won’t divulge.

Why did he take the role? “I like to mix it up and do something completely different.” It was, he says, “literally the smell of the paint” that made him become an actor in the first place: “I was building and painting the sets. I didn’t want to go to college or work in an office or have a nine-to-five job. I knew that quite clearly before I left school.” He is 41 now, and in the intervening years says he “definitely thought about stopping more than twice. I have been doing this since I was very young. If I could wind it back I would have another life – I would like that, but I would also like to have this life too. For me, now, working and children is it. There’s nothing more to life” •

Freefall is on BBC2 tonight at 9pm. The Wake Wood will be released later this year.

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Man on the edge

Aidan Gillen made his name playing chancers and scumbags and in his new BBC drama Freefall he portrays a venal City banker

It’s not easy to interview someone who you’ve last seen masturbating. But so it is with Aidan Gillen. As I approach him in the National Film Theatre foyer, I can’t help recalling a scene I’ve just watched. He plays venal City banker Gus in the forthcoming BBC credit-crunch drama Freefall; after clinching some ghastly multi-billion sub-prime deal that ultimately leads to the debt-ridden immiseration of thousands, Gus retreats to the office loos to celebrate in the manner he deems most proper. Never has the cockney rhyming slang “merchant banker” been quite so luridly literalised.

Harold Pinter described Gillen as “dangerous” after seeing him appear in a 2003 Broadway production of The Caretaker. As I walk towards him he wraps and unwraps his legs around each other repeatedly. His whole demeanour is an heroically uncomfortable array of twitches and leers.

“Having talked to a lot of those guys in banking, I realised that high finance is very exciting,” he says as we settle down in the bar. “It probably is terribly exciting to watch these deals fall into place.” But surely not so terribly exciting as your character finds it? “I don’t know. I don’t want to get too wanky about it, but I can totally sympathise with him. There’s pleasure in his life but there’s nobody to share it with. Hence, you know, that scene.”

Gillen is no stranger to, you know, challenging scenes. A decade ago in Queer As Folk, he played Stuart, uttering the infamous lines: “I’m a faggot-ass, fudge-packing, shit-stabbing uphill gardener. I dine at the downstairs restaurant, I dance at the other end of the ballroom. I’m Moses and the parting of the red cheeks . . . And I am not a pervert.” (Gillen, a former Dublin altar boy, recalls watching some sex scenes from Queer As Folk with his mother. “She said: ‘How are they actually doing that?’ And my brother-in-law said: ‘It’s trick photography.’”) His performance was, like the series, widely praised. It was also typical of his astute preference for edgy small-screen dramas in recent years.

Before Queer As Folk came the role of Gypo in Antonia Bird’s Safe. At one point Gypo, a young homeless man, plunges a bottle into his chest in order to get free hospital treatment. More recently, Gillen starred as Baltimore mayor Tommy Carcetti in The Wire, a political reptile who unexpectedly grows a spine and a conscience while in office.

How did Gillen get the role? “They were casting the net wide getting actors who aren’t recognised, so that’s how us lot [he means the British and the Irish – Dominic West and Idris Elba also starred] got into it. It worked. I’d just been in The Caretaker on Broadway, which meant nothing perhaps to TV audiences there, but showed I could do what they wanted. Also many American actors don’t really want to blot their resumés by appearing as scumbags. British actors – and Irish ones too if I’m anything to go by – are less bothered about playing disgusting or even flawed people. They’re often the most interesting roles, after all, but in the US they can be career death.”

Gillen’s resumé, then, might not make much sense to an American actor: it teems with reptiles, chancers and scumbags (he was particularly effective as Mick, the swaggering, volatile pipe dreamer in The Caretaker, and as the slimy real-estate agent Richard Roma in a West End production of David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross). But he is proud of it. “There’s a common thread through Antonia Bird, Queer As Folk and The Wire,” he says. “I have been in control of what I’ve been doing, of the career I’ve put together.” I’m not sure how that control includes, say, his turn in the Jackie Chan-Owen Wilson buddy-chop-socky sequel Shanghai Knights, but let’s not spoil the story.

“I’ve made a point of trying not to play the same part, and of moving between theatre and film and TV. The idea is that by the time you come back you have been away for a year and people have forgotten you. If you like having time off, which I do, that’s a good career strategy. Or at least, it’s my strategy to keep my head together. I keep going back to Ireland to reboot. And then return, showing up as someone else.”

Freefall marks Gillen’s return to British TV drama after too long away. “When I was 19 growing up in Dublin, I wanted to come to London. I’d done a lot of Irish stage work, which was great [in Billy Roche's A Handful of Stars, for instance], but London was a magnet . . . the place where the great TV dramas were made. It was like someone wanting to be in a rock’n'roll band now.”

His fellow Wire star Dominic West has said that the UK lacks quality contemporary drama on TV. He told Radio 4′s Today programme recently: “If you turn on American TV, there’s a huge choice of nothing you want to see and, unfortunately, I think that’s the case here now as well . . . we don’t seem to be able to do contemporary stuff.” Does Gillan agree?

“So-called reality TV, which dominates British channels, is destroying what made it cherishable to me and lots of others in the first place. I loved Alan Clarke, Ken Loach and Alan Bleasdale’s work. In fact the first TV dramas I ever saw were Screen Twos produced by David Thompson, who also produced a lot of Alan Clarke. And now David produces Freefall, so it shows the kind of British TV drama I admired is not quite dead.”

That said, Gillen has now retreated to live in Ireland and works there as much as he can. “I just wanted to get back home. I have always been travelling – New York and London. I want to give my kids a proper home.” He lives with his wife Olivia O’Flanagan in Kerry, and his children Berry and Joe attend a Gaelic-speaking school. “They have been brought up in London but because they have Irish parents they seemed to have an Irish accent – then when they got out to Ireland they sounded like Oliver Twist.”

His latest project is to star in the first Hammer film of the 21st century. Called The Wake Wood, it doesn’t sound like the camp Hammer horror that made films starring Ingrid Pitt and Peter Cushing so diverting 40 years ago. “No, it’s nothing like that. It’s an Irish film written by a guy I know [writer-director David Keating]. It’s the kind of horror film that I like – The Exorcist and The Wicker Man.”

The film tells the story of a couple, Patrick (Gillen) and Louise Daley (Eva Birthistle), whose nine-year-old daughter is killed in a dog attack. To escape their grief, they relocate to a remote rural community. The locals introduce the couple to a secret, pagan ritual that will allow them three more days with Alice before she is returned to the ground for ever. But what will they do when it’s time for Alice to go back? Gillen sensibly won’t divulge.

Why did he take the role? “I like to mix it up and do something completely different.” It was, he says, “literally the smell of the paint” that made him become an actor in the first place: “I was building and painting the sets. I didn’t want to go to college or work in an office or have a nine-to-five job. I knew that quite clearly before I left school.” He is 41 now, and in the intervening years says he “definitely thought about stopping more than twice. I have been doing this since I was very young. If I could wind it back I would have another life – I would like that, but I would also like to have this life too. For me, now, working and children is it. There’s nothing more to life” •

Freefall is on BBC2 tonight at 9pm. The Wake Wood will be released later this year.

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Emma Watson says Pattinson is just a ‘good friend’

She might have worked with Hollywood heartthrob Robert Pattinson, but Harry Potter star Emma Watson denies any sparks ever flew within them.
While attending the Ziegfeld Theatre premiere of ‘Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince”, Watson admitted that she and Pattinson are “good friends”.
“He’s just a good friend!” the New York Daily News quoted Watson as [...]

Spike: the voice of Hitler humour?

As the Goon Show creator’s wartime memoirs are put on stage, it is time to reassess Milligan’s comedy legacy?

“Hitler: his part in British comedy,” anyone? A show opens this week in Bristol that may conclusively establish the Fuhrer’s influence on the development of UK humour. And no, this has nothing to do with Dad’s Army or Monty Python’s sketch about Adolf holing up in an English B&B with Von Ribbentrop and Himmler. The show in question is Adolf Hitler: My Part in His Downfall, an adaptation of the wartime memoirs of Goon Show creator Spike Milligan.

Would Milligan’s sense of the absurd have evolved in quite the same way without his wartime experiences? “When you know what he went on to do after the war,” says the show’s director Tim Carroll, “you can see the seeds of it here.” Carroll – whose Twelfth Night at Shakespeare’s Globe I still remember as a minor comic masterpiece – describes Milligan’s series of WWII-set books as “laughter in the face of death”; they are companion pieces to Joseph Heller’s Catch-22 in their dredging of mind-bending comic illogic from the abjection of war.

Can we trace a whole strand of anarcho-absurdist UK comedy back to Milligan’s WWII experiences? Okay, so the losers’ humour that characterises much British sitcom owes its origins to the likes of Galton and Simpson (the writers behind Steptoe and Son and Hancock’s Half Hour). But it’s Milligan who’s hailed as “the godfather of alternative comedy” – by Eddie Izzard, no less. And it’s easy to imagine the free-associative comedy we associate with Milligan – daring to speak crap, submitting to the reign of the subconscious – as a response to the boredom of service, as a little rebellion against the disciplines of war. At any rate, Spike’s mix of nonsense and iconoclasm (and all that merciless Goon Show ribbing of the officer class) prepared the ground for the 60s satire boom and directly inspired the Pythons.

It also fed directly into British theatre. Few now recall Milligan’s hit play The Bed-Sitting Room, co-written with John Antrobus, which foresaw a post-apocalyptic London (World War III lasted a mere two minutes and 28 seconds – “including the signing of the peace treaty”) in which characters mutate into parrots, wardrobes and, er, a bedsit. His West End appearance in an adaptation of the 19th-century novel Oblomov is better remembered; Milligan used the story, of an inert Russian melancholic, as a launchpad for his own wild improvisations. In Milligan’s theatre, wrote the no-less-eminent Peter Brook, “the imagination flies like a wild bat in and out of every possible shape and style”.

That’s the spirit Tim Carroll’s production (London-bound at the end of the month) hopes to revive, with its promises of a Milligan-style collision of tragedy and idiocy, jazz music and comedy sketch. After all, it’s hard for us later generations to judge claims of Milligan’s genius, not least because the BBC destroyed the tapes of his ground-breaking TV sketch series Q. To us, he’s just the old-stager who called Prince Charles a “little grovelling bastard” at the British Comedy awards, or tried to have his headstone engraved with the words “I told you I was ill”. Was he really that brilliant? And what part did Hitler play in refining his comic sensibility? By putting Milligan’s wartime memoir on its feet, Carroll and co may help us identify the DNA of a major strand in UK comedy.

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Manchester bands together

Jeremy Deller’s Procession was a fond and playful celebration of past and present


Adrian Searle meets Marina Abramović

The grandmother of self-styled performance art forces Adrian Searle to slow down in a visceral new show involving 13 international artists at the Whitworth gallery


The Container’s captive audience

Why would theatregoers pay to get locked inside a freight container? Stephen Moss on a daring play about human trafficking

A 40ft freight container, the sort you see trundling around on the backs of lorries, will be plonked outside the Young Vic theatre in London next week. It will stand there for a fortnight, acting as the hottest, sweatiest, darkest, most intimate theatrical space in the UK, home to Clare Bayley’s play The Container, which won awards at Edinburgh in 2007.

The Container tells the story of five migrants – two Afghans, two Somalis and a Turkish Kurd – who are crossing Europe, accompanied by a Turkish trafficker and an unseen lorry driver. Their hoped-for destination is the UK, land of dreams. But they are experiencing only nightmares: the grim memories of what drove them from their homes, the stench of the container, and the fear of an unknown future.

I meet Bayley, director Tom Wright and the cast on a windy morning in a bleak corner of London’s Docklands, where they have hired another container for rehearsals. The container is not just the set, but the theatre itself; the audience of 28 will sit on boxes inside as the action goes on around them, and the only lighting will come from torches carried by the actors. A few extra ventilation holes will be drilled; the Young Vic doesn’t want the audience passing out. Recreating the smell of excrement would have been too overwhelming, says Wright, but the heat, darkness, smell of sweaty bodies and claustrophobia will make the experience real enough.

Today’s rehearsal is about exploring the space and getting used to the torches, which the actors have to learn not to shine into the eyes of whoever they are speaking to, but at a “sweet spot” on their necks, to light their faces without dazzling them. They haven’t quite got their lines by heart, and are learning both torch control and how to move in a confined space on what they have to imagine is a moving lorry, but already the foundation is in place for a powerful exploration of a journey that is, to most, unimaginable.

“I find the stories of migrants and refugees incredibly compelling,” says Bayley. “Our lives are so sanitised, yet, in the midst of them, all this is going on. It’s so close to us and so invisible. This is about taking people inside that experience.” She wrote the play in 2002, but it was rejected by a succession of theatres before being picked up by a company touring schools in Essex. The play then moved to Edinburgh, where it won a Scotsman Fringe First award and Amnesty International’s Freedom of Expression award.

Bayley always envisaged the play being staged in a container, but, she says, “I wasn’t sure I would find anybody mad enough to do it.” In Edinburgh, where Wright took over direction, it was performed in the back of a truck. He had originally wanted the truck to be driving while the play was in progress, but that was ruled out on health and safety grounds. He did, though, get his way on lighting. “I argued there should be no theatrical lighting,” he says, “only the torches the asylum seekers have. It is much more intense without lights.”

Three of the Young Vic cast are new; three appeared in Edinburgh. Wright laid down a rule: anyone who said, “When we did it in Edinburgh . . . ” would have to pay a £1 fine; so far, he admits, he is the biggest contributor. But he insists he and the cast are trying to mine the play afresh, and have found new readings that passed them by in 2007.

It’s crucial, Wright says, to do it as a piece of drama, not as a documentary on the plight of migrants. “It would be very easy for the actors to keep on researching and researching. The Young Vic has ties with refugee camps, and it would have been very easy to get asylum seekers into the rehearsals and grill them. I took a decision not to, and also to have an absolute cut-off on research. The actors had to stop after the second week, because it becomes too easy to play the tragedy of everybody ever. That was Clare’s job – to put an entire argument about asylum into the play. All we need to do is play the actual people.”

Performing it in a container limits the size of the audience so much that the play’s theatrical life is inherently limited. The Young Vic production is only possible because of backing from Amnesty. Might it ever be done conventionally? Wright says yes, but almost certainly not by him. “We approached one large funding body and they turned us down, saying, ‘Have you considered doing it as a site-specific performance in a theatre? Put the container on the stage of a theatre, take off one side, and then everybody can sit and watch it.’ You could do that, and maybe a couple of years down the line somebody will, but it won’t be the same.”

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‘I’ll die on the eighth curtain call’

‘In acting, you can keep going till you drop. I intend to die on the eighth curtain call’

What got you started?

My mother was an actor and my father loved the theatre, so acting was always in the air. But when I got into the Bristol Old Vic theatre school, my headmistress wrote to the director and said: “Are you sure this girl should be an actress? We wanted her to try for Cambridge.” Of course, this was used as a stick to beat me with for the rest of my training.

What was your big breakthrough?

I don’t really recognise the concept of a big breakthrough. I got a job right out of drama school as assistant stage manager at the Bristol Old Vic. I’ve been lucky enough to stay in work ever since.

What have you sacrificed for your art?

My family. But they seem to have forgiven me.

Do you suffer for your art?

Yes. A good actor just wants to deliver the writing to the audience who’ve paid that night. There’s an agonising desire to get it right.

What’s the greatest threat to theatre today?

A lack of funding for theatres, especially regional ones.

Stage or screen?

Both. Plus radio. It’s a wonderful medium: on my 50th birthday I played a seven-year-old child on radio, and nobody turned a hair.

What advice would you give a young actor?

Keep still. I can’t bear it when young actors do too much finger-wagging. It spoils the audience’s concentration.

What’s the biggest myth about actors?

That we’re superficial, and concerned only with fame and fortune. That’s cruelly untrue of nearly every actor I know.

What work of art would you most like to own?

Any painting by Corot. He conveys character and feeling beautifully.

What’s the best advice anyone ever gave you?

Look after your health. This came from Litz Pisk, my movement teacher at drama school. She theorised the importance of physical discipline for an actor.

Do you read your reviews?

Oh, yes. But one should not be overdiscouraged by adverse ones, or let the good ones go to one’s head.

Is there anything about your career you regret?

Not playing more classical roles when I was younger. But I do hope to play some of the older ladies – like Paulina in The Winter’s Tale. In this industry, you can keep going until you drop. I intend to die on the eighth curtain call.

In short

Born: Surrey, 1932.

Career: TV and radio work includes roles in Fawlty Towers, Rumpole of the Bailey and Mapp & Lucia. Performs in Carrie’s War at the Apollo Theatre, London, (0844 412 4658), until 12 September.

High point: “Possibly Fawlty Towers. It was a tough job, but I’m still proud of it.”

Low point: “Being out of work is very depressing. But luckily I haven’t been there for a long time.”

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Procession celebrates Manchester

First came the Scouts’ band – then goths, smokers and a lament for lost clubs in parade organised by Turner prize winner

At twenty minutes to two, it’s a normal, albeit spectacularly sunny Sunday afternoon in Manchester: shoppers, idlers, lunchers. At ten to, the long, straight expanse of Deansgate is suddenly lined with expectant crowds. As the town hall clock strikes, you begin to hear it: the boom of a bassline, the shrilling of brass and wind.

Gradually the slow-moving, bellowing beast moves into focus. This is Manchester international festival’s Procession, organised by Turner prize-winning artist Jeremy Deller, the man who got the Women’s Institute arranging flowers in the Tate and re-created, with historical re-enactment groups, the Battle of Orgreave, the 1984 miners’ strike conflict with police.

First up in the parade is the Scouts’ marching band. “You’ve got to have the Scouts in a procession,” says Deller. “It’s almost the law, isn’t it?” Aside from the fact that he has asked them to play the Fall’s Hit the North, this is one of the most conventional parts of the parade, for next up comes a large float beautifully done out as a brick factory, complete with smoke-belching chimney and former mill workers.

Deller likes the idea that there are people who, according to conventional wisdom, ought not to be celebrated – which is why, wandering gloomily into view, come the emos and goths who hang out in Cathedral Gardens on a Saturday afternoon. Before and behind them putter local authority mobile libraries.

Suddenly, there are nodding black plumes as a horse-drawn hearse appears – inside the glass-sided carriage, the word HACIENDA picked out in cream chrysanthemums. It’s the first of a fleet of hearses, each bringing a floral tribute to another lost, loved club of the north-west: Wigan Casino; Bolton’s Burden Park. This gets the local vote: “Very poignant”, says Rachel Cook, 36.

It’s time for royalty – a whole dynasty of rose queens from Stretford. The queens, all dressed in white, wave regally – and look, there’s Britannia, and after her, a banner celebrating Ian Tomlinson, who died during the G20 protests. Ed Hall, who often collaborates with Deller, has stitched beautiful banners, including one designed by David Hockney, depicting an ashtray, for a chain-puffing group, the Unrepentant Smokers. There’s a Smoking Kills banner just behind, for balance.

Matters of appetite are not neglected, for here comes a quite magnificent, giddyingly camp cavalcade devoted to the notion that Oldham was the home of the first ever fish and chip shop. “Choose the chip!” bawls one of the float’s outriders, her headdress a skyscraping affair of fries in newspaper. On one float sings and dances a legion of fryers and a 3ft-tall vinegar shaker.

Revving behind are the local boy racers, sound systems booming. They are the crew that speed round the back of the Stockport Toys R Us carpark on a Thursday night, and not everyone is pleased. James Clayden, 79, says: “All those fumes – it’s enough to kill the smell of the fish and chips. We’re supposed to be thinking about the environment.”

He likes the Shree Swaminarayan Gadi Piping Band from Bolton, though – a group of Asian-British Hindus kitted out in full dress kilts piping as if their lives depended on it. But what brings the tears to the crowd’s eyes is the last float. It bears a steel band playing, at Deller’s request, Joy Division and Buzz-cocks songs. They ring out Love Will Tear Us Apart, the melancholy memory of Ian Curtis’s singing mingling oddly with the steel band’s glorious, passionately joyous treatment. It’s vintage Deller, and, somehow, pure Manchester.

In the rear, like an apologetic coda, the sight of a municipal motorised road sweeper. Next time maybe there’ll be room for a fleet of these, too.

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The power of now

There are some events that are simply too overwhelming and terrible to confront immediately How should fiction tackle subjects as immediate as the expenses scandal or Bernard Madoff’s fraud? Which novels and plays – from Dickens to David Hare – have best captured current events? Ferdinand Mount on what makes politics work in literature

At some stage in their lives, writers of all sorts hear the call to write about the political events of their own time. They may think of it as a moral duty, an undertaking that it would be cowardly to resist, or they may think of it simply as an intriguing challenge. But for one reason or another, they take the plunge. They do not often tremble on the diving board. Is trying to make literature out of politics different from other kinds of writing? Are there peculiar dangers or interesting possibilities in tackling a subject so immediate, so familiar to your audience as the dodgy dossier or the expenses scandal? They may already have passionate views on the subject. Are there artistic dangers when you preach to the converted (preaching against the converted is more likely to endanger your personal safety)?

It is all very well to take the decision to engage, easy to choose your theme, what Henry James called your donnée. But as James never tired of pointing out to his friends and inferiors – HG Wells, Edith Wharton, Hugh Walpole – it is what you do with the donnée that counts, how you handle the material, which bits you select and which you leave out, what you are trying ultimately to achieve. The danger in choosing a political theme is always of not working it through properly, of revealing the thing in all its miserable nakedness as a book or poem or play about Iraq, or unemployment, or abortion, and nothing more than that. The audience becomes aware that the author is a kind of unlicensed intruder whose motives are too gratingly ulterior. The nest collapses under the cuckoo’s weight. The problem is not so much the bad faith which intellectuals agonise about. The problem is bad art.

Take Harley Granville Barker’s play Waste. Barker was perhaps the most intelligent English playwright of the 20th century. No one thought more deeply about stagecraft or playwriting, or especially about Shakespeare. At first sight, Waste looks like a richly wrought and carefully conceived piece. That is what entices talented directors in every generation to revive it. Yet however you produce it, it never quite comes to life, even in Sam West’s fine recent production at the Almeida. The critics were not, I think, quite able to put their finger on why it didn’t work. It certainly was not because of the actors: Will Keen was magnificent as the icy but passionate Henry Trebell and Phoebe Nicholls affecting as his sister. The themes of the play – political hypocrisy and abortion – are certainly not outdated. What several critics hazarded was that modern audiences could not be expected to warm to Trebell’s obsession with his bill to disestablish the church. This was dismissed as a fusty theme with no relevance to our lives. Yet audiences have warmed to themes no less fusty, for example the supremacy of the church in the time of Henry VIII, as tussled over in A Man for All Seasons. Disestablishment mattered intensely in 19th-century politics and it has, as a matter of fact, resurfaced in church debate today.

The fault in the play is a rather different one. Barker simply tells us too much about the Disestablishment Bill, the arguments for and against, the difficulties of getting it through parliament, all those things that are the bread-and-butter of political life. He is too conscientious. He lacks the ruthlessness of the great artist. Disestablishment needs to be treated simply as a conflict about which the characters are passionately concerned but the precise details of which need not detain us. That is the lesson that Alfred Hitchcock taught so brilliantly. What he called the McGuffin is selected as the main driving force of the film, the holy grail, the object of everyone’s frantic search, but to define it too exactly would only slow us down and might undermine our faith in the whole enterprise.

Real-life politics is full of McGuffins. That’s the trouble. What occupies the obsessive attention of the Westminster world tends to be an imbroglio so complex and in many respects so absurdly trivial that it does not translate easily into art. In 1986 the Westland affair caused Michael Heseltine to stalk out of the cabinet and set off the internal conflict that destroyed the Conservative party for two decades, perhaps the worst civil war in the party since the reform of the Corn Laws. Initially, what the argument centred on was whether Mrs Thatcher had illegitimately manipulated the cabinet agenda; then it shifted to whether her allies had leaked a letter of advice from the solicitor general in defiance of long-established convention. For days, debate revolved furiously round this point, leading eventually to the forced resignation of the home secretary. Yet it was a pure McGuffin, because apart from the relative insignificance of the letter it was doubtful whether any such convention existed. In any case, to become absorbed in the actual details, as we all were, is to become a journalist. The artist simply seizes on the McGuffin and runs with it. He is interested only in the specifics that illuminate his theme.

Considered as literature, the perfect text is often one that offers no clear answers. In Little Dorrit, for example, what exactly is the nature of the debt which William Dorrit is imprisoned for non-payment of? What precisely does Mr Merdle do to make his mountains of money? What is Daniel Doyce’s brilliant invention that the Circumlocution Office refuses to support? Dickens offers us the barest minimum of information about such things. Indeed, we are told that “nobody knew with the least precision what Mr Merdle’s business was, except that it was to coin money”. It is his marvellous mysteriousness that makes all his investors feel so privileged to be allowed to put their money with him, from his fellow millionaires down to Pancks the rent collector, who assures Arthur Clennam: “I tell you, Mr Clennam, I’ve gone into it. He’s a man of immense resources – enormous capital – government influence. They’re the best schemes afloat. They’re safe. They’re certain.” The point is that Pancks has not gone into it, any more than the just-sentenced Bernie Madoff’s willing victims went into his business. The suspension of disbelief is the first secret of the fraudster’s art. And it is precisely by denying the reader all those financial details that you would find in a modern bestseller about Wall Street that Dickens breaks through to a finer truth.

Merdle is based on the real-life Madoff or Maxwell of his day, John Sadleir, an Irish banker and MP, who took poison after his enormous swindles had been exposed and was found dead near the Spaniards’ Inn on Hampstead Heath while Little Dorrit was being written. What fascinated Dickens was Sadleir’s utter lack of flamboyance or personal magnetism: he was a cold, sallow-faced, wrinkled bachelor who appeared to take no pleasure in his fortune or in human company. Merdle too, we are told, did not shine in company. Just like Madoff in Florida, he seems to have reassured investors by his combination of relentless hospitality and personal inconspicuousness.

Dickens’s urge to fictionalise and politicise real contemporary events was both immediate and passionate. While he was writing Little Dorrit, he wrote to Angela Burdett-Coutts that he remained “a Reformer heart and soul. I have nothing to gain – everything to lose (for public quiet is my bread) – but I am in desperate earnest because I know it is a desperate case”. Not only does the book satirise the appalling ease with which fraudsters could relieve the public of huge sums, it is also directed against two other scandals of the day: the injustice of imprisonment for debt and the maladministration in Whitehall which was responsible for hardship and delay at home and disease and death in the Crimea. All three scandals were red-hot at the time – the Crimean war was still going on – and although specific prisons reserved for debtors no longer exist, all three issues remain red-hot today, substituting only Madoff for Merkle and Iraq for the Crimea.

Dickens’s techniques were much resented by the Sir Humphreys of the time. His satire was said to be unfair and exaggerated and to take no account of the real problems of governing the country. I remember, when I first read Little Dorrit, feeling that the Circumlocution Office was a rather crude caricature. That was before I had any direct experience of the higher bureaucracy. Re-reading Little Dorrit now, I am struck rather by the brilliance of the description of Clennam storming the Circumlocution Office to try to find out why William Dorrit is still in the Marshalsea after so many years. After several false starts, he is directed to the room of Mr Wobbler in the Secretarial Department: “He entered the apartment, and found two gentlemen sitting face to face at a large and easy desk, one of whom was polishing a gun-barrel on his pocket-handkerchief, while the other was spreading marmalade on bread with a paper knife.” I might have found this fanciful if I had not once entered a private secretaries’ room in Whitehall at a quiet time in the parliamentary recess and found one of the inmates with his ear to Test Match Special while another in his braces was aiming paper darts into a waste-paper basket.

In a larger sense, Dickens communicates his political message by transcending it. We never lose the sense of the Marshalsea as a grim, enclosing institution, but what anchors it in our minds are the ways in which the inmates have made a home and a society out of a prison. We share Dickens’s exasperated affection for all Dorrit’s pompous self-deception, just as we too are carried away along with the punters by Mr Merdle’s air of knowing the secrets of the financial universe.

Here perhaps we begin to glimpse an essential condition for turning politics into literary art: that our affections have to be engaged, even against our best intentions. If the monsters are to be real, they must seduce us a little. I remember one or two complaints that either David Hare and Howard Brenton or Anthony Hopkins, or a combination of the three of them, had made the monstrous colonial press baron Lambert Le Roux in Pravda too devilishly attractive. To mount an effective attack on press corruption, the argument went, he should have been unmitigatedly repellent. But, like it or not, in real life the Beaverbrooks and the Murdochs are attractive, albeit in a piratical, reptilian way. It is often only this menacing charm that conceals the tycoon’s inner dullness. That is partly how they got where they were, and that is why Pravda succeeds so brilliantly and in its heightening is truer to life. To fail to see this is to fail to see the boundary that separates agitprop both from literature and from life.

In David Hare’s most recent play, Gethsemane, the characters again appear to be based on recognisable real-life models: the cabinet minister whose husband is in trouble with the law, the minister’s rebellious daughter, the oily fixer who thinks he is running the prime minister like a puppetmaster. But the characters don’t seem to have much juice in them, or to have been conceived with any affection, even of the unwilling sort. The satire seemed rather inert. Is this perhaps because it is difficult to denounce Tony Blair and New Labour for betraying the party’s old ideals, when the whole point of Blair’s successful pitch for power was that this would be the first Labour administration which would not try to impose the party’s ideals on the public? Or is it rather that the problems of defining and delivering the didactic message prevent the play from breathing its own air?

How exactly should a “political” playwright conceive his mission? Ibsen, we know, took it as an insult when he was congratulated and thanked for the help he had given to the women’s cause. He told the Norwegian Association for Women’s Rights in 1898: “I have never written a poem or a play to further a social purpose. I have been more of a poet and less of a social philosopher than most people seem inclined to believe.” He added in characteristically grumpy vein: “I am not even very sure what women’s rights really are.” I am indebted for this quotation to an essay in these pages by AS Byatt who said, it seemed with some surprise, that each time she reads A Doll’s House, she finds Nora less and less sympathetic. But that surely is why it is a great play. The cramping social restrictions which deny women a proper life operate all the more perniciously upon a wilful, difficult temperament. The play is about Nora, not about woman’s place in modern society, just as Macbeth is about Macbeth and not about kingship in 11th-century Scotland. Nora needs to be played not by someone who instantly rouses our sympathy but by one of those actresses who are so good at playing irritating women, like Peggy Ashcroft and Juliet Stevenson. The same is true of Hedda Gabler, superbly done by Eve Best in a recent production.

The word to describe what I think must be avoided is “portentous”. That word is derived from “protendere”, to stretch forth, and it’s that effortful stretching forward to bring out the politics which pulls the work out of shape. The leading American novelists of the past 30 years are much admired in Britain for their willingness to tackle what Melville called “mighty themes”, especially what they see as the mightiest of all, which is the state of America. Every time they sit down to write, they have their sights set on the Great American Novel, described by the literary editor John Walsh as “the big one, the single perfect work of fiction that would encapsulate the heart of the US, interpret its history through the light of a single, outstanding consciousness, unite the private lives of the characters with the public drama of its politics”.

But is this what a novel should be doing? Over the years, I have certainly enjoyed most of the novels of John Updike and Philip Roth and Richard Ford, and quite a few of Saul Bellow and Norman Mailer. Yet I cannot disguise the sensation that creeps over me halfway through most of these novels, that the message is being over-inked. Something is being said about American society – its racism, or its anti-semitism, or its solitary bleakness, or its greed – but it is being said too loudly and too often to allow the book to breathe. Something is also being said about the Kennedy years, or the Nixon years, or the Reagan years, as though human life and culture took its cue from whoever happened to get elected president. There is not enough sense of human existence going on independently of political events or social trends, little sense in particular of human relationships; for relationships, especially those between men and women, appear to have the life smothered out of them by that “single outstanding consciousness”, invariably a man’s.

Let me offer, by way of contrast, Alice Munro, Jane Smiley, Anne Tyler, Annie Proulx. As Elaine Showalter points out, “serious women writers are much less likely than their male counterparts to celebrate themselves”, and as a result they are much less likely to be celebrated as Great Writers. Yet their reach is no less large, their wit no less wicked, and their sympathies no less broad. There is nothing “domestic” about their scale. I would argue that their best books are more fully realised as works of art because they manage to deal with all the big themes without being overwhelmed by them. And I find more human relating in a single short story by Munro, recently awarded the international Booker prize, than in 500 pages inflated by the great Bellows.

A couple of years ago I happened to read no fewer than three American novels about estate agents: Ford’s The Lay of the Land, Smiley’s Good Faith and Tyler’s Digging to America. You can see why the theme occurred to them all: the restlessness and impermanence of a people always on the move, the eating up of the land, the churning of homes into money. All three novels are highly readable, yet in the Ford the theme seemed too relentlessly forced, whereas Tyler and Smiley managed to deliver the message, if message there was, without being enslaved by it. I do not mean to imply merely that the women’s novels achieve lightness, though they do. They are not just soufflés that have risen. They are aircraft that fly with a full payload.

At first sight, the theatre of Bertolt Brecht might seem to defy my contention that the politics must somehow be absorbed for the piece to succeed as a work of art. Surely the whole point of Brecht is to disdain artifice and give us the political message full-frontally. But Brecht simply takes another route to a similar destination. Yes, he puts his political anger nakedly before us, but he also presents it in a highly stylised way, like a Japanese play. This famous Verfremdungseffekt is only another way of transforming, a variant of the art that conceals art. It is certainly not to be belittled because it is a different way.

When I argue that the work needs to escape from the message or to transcend it, I am not seeking to erase the message or to deny that it may be perfectly valid. I see here twin fallacies that mirror one another. The first is what might be called the “agitprop fallacy”: that the work is of value only in so far as it promotes the message and that a work which lacks any political purpose is worthless because it evades our moral responsibility for the state of the world. That, I think most people now agree, is a narrow and misguided view of both life and literature.

The mirror image of the agitprop fallacy is the belief that art should steer clear of politics and that any work which is inspired by political passion is flawed and lessened. We might call it the “art-for-art’s-sake fallacy”. This seems to me to relegate politics to a uniquely underprivileged role, reminiscent of the convention supposed to operate at Victorian dinner tables that certain topics, such as women and religion, were not to be mentioned. Political themes and passions surely have every right to muscle in on the act. The question remains what role they are to perform? What effect do they have or should they have on the world?

One point of view is that baldly expressed by Shelley in the closing sentence of his Defence of Poetry: “Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world.” That famous phrase appears to assert that it is poets who are the advance guard of reform, the trumpeters at the head of the column. Yet the sentences just before this thumping conclusion qualify it. Shelley tells us that “an energetic development of the literature of England . . . has ever preceded or accompanied a great and free development of the national will.” So poetry doesn’t always come first, it may happen alongside. Nor is it necessarily the case that poets think up the new stuff all by themselves. “The electric life which burns within the words” of the most celebrated writers of the present day may not be all their own work. In fact, “they are themselves perhaps the most sincerely astonished at its manifestations, for it is less their spirit than the spirit of the age.” Poets are “the mirrors of the gigantic shadows which futurity casts upon the present.” In Shelley’s formulation, they sound almost like spirit mediums, not responsible for the messages they give voice to.

At first sight, Shelley appears to be contradicted by Auden’s equally famous axiom in his “In Memory of WB Yeats”: “for poetry makes nothing happen: it survives in the valley of its making”. Which sounds as if poetry is and should be cut off from the real world. Yet Auden too qualifies his utterance. At the end of the verse, he tells us that poetry “survives, / A way of happening, a mouth”. So ultimately Shelley and Auden are not that far apart. What poetry does is give voice to the spirit of the age. It speaks for our hopes and fears, our sense of outrage or despair. I rather like the medieval poet’s term “my plaint” – from plango, I beat, hence I beat my breast, hence I lament. The poet is the village breast-beater, the counsel for the plaintiff.

This giving-voice may have consequences in the real world. It may incite people to do things, it may unify them, give them hope or consolation. In old age, Yeats himself looked back on a public life sporadically concerned with political causes:

Did that play of mine send out

Certain men the English shot?

Did words of mine put too great

strain

On that woman’s reeling brain?

Could my spoken words have

checked

That whereby a house lay

wrecked?

And all seems evil until I

Sleepless would lie down and

die.

But this insomniac reverie is a medley of the public and the private. Yeats is thinking not only about his responsibility for helping to incite the Easter Rising but also about his affair with the mentally unstable actress Margaret Ruddock and about the abandonment and loss of his beloved Coole. Life of all sorts flows through literature; there is no special reserved status for politics.

Nor is there any standard time-relation between the political cause and the literary outflow. Political passion may flow hot and strong and instant, notably in writing about war. The war poems of Sassoon and Owen came straight from the western front. Their disillusion and disgust were as direct and unmediated as had been the enthusiasm of Julian Grenfell and Rupert Brooke at the outset of the war. Tennyson wrote “The Charge of the Light Brigade” in only a few minutes after reading the account of the disaster in the Times. There was a similar instant response to unemployment and hardship, in both the 1930s and the 1980s. The anti-Thatcher songs were not slow in coming.

Sometimes those who might seem best qualified to write directly about politics feel under no compulsion at all to do so. Goethe was for 10 years and more chef de cabinet to the Duke of Weimar, more or less prime minister of the little duchy. Yet his political experience does not find much immediate reflection in his work. Certainly he does not tell us a great deal about his encouragement of the textile and mining industries in Weimar or his reforms of the school system there. I do not mean that as a writer he was impervious to the outside world. On the contrary, as a young man he was a leader in the passionate romantic movement across Europe, patented in Germany as Sturm und Drang. In later life, he was a leader in the rediscovery of classicism which also spread across Europe in architecture and painting as well as in poetry and drama. His attitude towards Germanness developed in parallel with his stylistic development, all these sides of him being brought together in that extraordinary broken-backed masterpiece, Faust. Yet you would not think of Goethe primarily as a political poet or playwright, and you would not be surprised to be told that he had spent his whole life living by a millstream and had taken no part in politics at all.

Sometimes, too, one is struck by the complete absence of literary reaction to great events, by a silence that may seem more awesome than speech. The two greatest Italian poets of the 20th century, Eugenio Montale and Giuseppe Ungaretti, both fought in the first world war on the Italian front, which was just as horrific as the western front, the trenches just as muddy, the slaughter as terrible, the senselessness even more evident, and the mountain terrain infinitely harsher. Yet Montale published only one, rather elegiac and personal, poem about the front, and Ungaretti’s war verse, which remains very popular in Italy, tends to look for lyrical transcendence in the moonlight over the mountains and soldiers bathing in the river.

In prose too, the horrors of the Italian front were passed over in near-total silence, until Mark Thompson’s wonderful history, The White War, came out last year. There was one glorious exception to this long silence, and that too was written by a non-Italian, Ernest Hemingway’s A Farewell to Arms. I thought, in a superior way, that I had grown out of Hemingway, but when I re-read the book recently I was recaptured from the first page. What I now know from reading Thompson is that A Farewell to Arms also gives a pretty good account of the war, being closely based on Hemingway’s experiences as a volunteer ambulance driver. When the narrator comes to his famous denunciation of the cruel and senseless nature of the war, it is not glib but fully earned.

There are some events that are simply too overwhelming and terrible to confront immediately. That may be more or less what Theodor Adorno meant by his well-known declaration that “writing poetry after Auschwitz is barbaric”. For some unlucky nations, writing recent history is too raw, too painful, too embarrassing. It may take years for writers who have been through such terrible times to find the proper voice to write about them. Often the literature does not “accompany or precede”, as Shelley claimed. It lags a long way after. A Farewell to Arms was not published until 1929, more than 10 years after the events it describes, and the same year as other classics of the Great War: Goodbye to All That and All Quiet on the Western Front. Sassoon’s Memoirs of an Infantry Officer came out the following year.

The horrors of the Holocaust were known and undeniable as soon as the camps were liberated and the living skeletons stumbled out in front of the newsreel cameras. But it was years before memoirs and novels began to explore those horrors. Sometimes this was because the writers could not face reliving the experience. Sometimes it was because publishers thought that their readers did not want to face it. Primo Levi wrote most of If This Is a Man in 1946, only a year after being freed from Auschwitz, but only an amateur publisher would take the book and it sold a mere 1,500 copies. It was not until 1958 that Giulio Einaudi brought it to a wider audience.

It has taken longer still for German writers to confront the Hitlerzeit. In the end, the task has been left to the generation who were either children or not born at all in those years, so that the sins they are writing about are not their own but those of their fathers and grandfathers.

In Britain, we have been energetic in writing about the misdeeds of other peoples, but we have had our own Great Silence. During the years immediately after the union flag was hauled down, first in India then across the rest of the British empire, there was a remarkable reluctance to think or write about the imperial experience. It was old hat, an embarrassing joke. We told ourselves that the whole thing had really had remarkably little impact on us. Then, quite without warning, the outpouring began, in novels and memoirs, and radio reminiscences and huge TV series. The outpouring seemed to be all the more heartfelt for having been so long delayed. Our sudden eagerness to recall the Raj and every other outpost of empire was also pushed on by the appearance, equally unexpected, of writers of brimming talent from every quarter of the imperial diaspora. In some years, it seemed there was scarcely a native British writer on the Booker shortlist. In fact, native British writers began to look rather dowdy and provincial, as though excluded from (if not actually deaf to) a globalised culture that revelled in diversity and displacement. It was almost like a reverse colonisation.

There is something rather impressive about these Great Silences. They seem to be observed by some mutual agreement that is itself tacit. They are like the silences observed on Remembrance Sunday, except they last 10 years rather than two minutes.

And the silences teach us something that is useful beyond their immediate context. They teach us that in whatever sense you choose, broad or narrow, local or global, politics is as fit and necessary a subject for writing about as anything else in life. But it is not therefore an easier subject. On the contrary, it is often much more difficult and requires reserves of tact and ingenuity and imagination. You do not score any points simply for being “political”. You certainly do not score any for trying to make a text more relevant to the politics of your own times. Art is difficult, and it is not made easier or more accessible or more valuable by turning it into a subdivision of or a surrogate for politics. That is merely to engage in a form of polemical journalism, and not good polemical journalism at that.

Politics in literature does its business best when we are least aware of its presence: when we are watching Little Dorrit scurrying to reach the Marshalsea before lock-up, or when we hear Nora announcing that she has a greater duty than her duty towards her children which is her duty to herself, when we see Hemingway’s bersaglieri marching off down the dusty white road to attack another hill they will never take. Politics works when it is lost in art.

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‘She got the keys to your soul’

Leading figures from the dance world and beyond have paid tribute to the German choreographer Pina Bausch, who died this week at the age of 68

Alain Platel, artistic director, Les Ballets C de la B

For me, Pina’s work was a trigger when I saw it in the early 80s. She opened a lot of doors for many of us. She was the first one to ask questions of her dancers and use the answers to make performances. She had little lists of questions. They could go from the absurd, like “What did you eat for Christmas?” to “How do you feel about love?” There were a thousand other questions in between. It was quite revolutionary. Many of us use that method now.

Her masterpiece is without doubt Café Müller. I was asked in 2001 to organise a dance festival, and I contacted Pina. Everyone told me that it would be impossible, that she never showed only Café Müller – and that she would never show it just for one evening. But she invited me to Wuppertal, and we talked, and she came! She came to the festival to show Café Müller in a theatre that was too small for the set to fit in.

The way she talked about her own and others’ performances was very subtle and poetic. What I liked about her was that she would never talk about your work in terms of good and bad; she would always try to understand why somebody would do something.

I probably will not be the only one who was extremely in love with her. She would give you a lot of attention in a very positive way. She would share you with the people she was with. She was extremely intelligent and sensitive – and, in that way, a mirror of her own performances.

Wayne McGregor, choreographer

An artist of true inspiration, Pina Bausch has changed the dance and theatre landscape forever. Always provocative, her amazing body of work stands testament to her enduring vision, innovation and creativity.

Lloyd Newson, DV8 Physical Theatre

When Pina Bausch first came to London in 1982, I remember swathes of audience members walking out and many critics sullenly dismissing her work as “not dance”, “structureless” or “self-indulgent”, and some still do. But Bausch was not a person to kowtow to audiences’ or critics’ demands to change her work. The rewards of that singular, uncompromising vision mean that nowadays for every person leaving one of her shows, there are 20 others waiting for their seat.

Bausch understood that dance and linear narrative weren’t always the best vehicles for discussing the human condition. Even if you were a disciple of her work from the outset, like I was, her work could delight you but just as easily frustrate and annoy you. That was her magnificence. Bausch made you feel. She had the courage to relentlessly pursue, on stage, her own fascinations and obsessions about time and human relations no matter how minuscule or epic those ideas might be; and that was her genius.

It is rare to find dance- or theatre-makers with such vision and courage. Her work truly allowed people to see the world from another perspective that, had she not been around, we would never have known. Her legacy is monumental.

Deborah Bull, creative director, Royal Opera House

I first saw Pina Bausch’s company in 1980, in what I now gather was an “unsuccessful” season at Sadler’s Wells. In retrospect, that makes sense: as a graduate student at the Royal Ballet School, I certainly couldn’t have afforded the seat I occupied at its face value. I don’t remember much about the performance other than a line of black-clad women advancing towards the audience and answering, one by one, the question of a disembodied voice: “What are you afraid of?” “Death.” “Is that all?” “Isn’t that enough?”

I knew I had seen something huge, something groundbreaking, something which would change forever what I believe can be expressed through dance, and how. Watching Bausch’s choreography is like watching life through a train window: unexpected peeks into private places, swathes of day-to-day drabness and life’s flotsam and jetsam washed up at the side of the track. A living tapestry which, like life, doesn’t always make sense. So some bits of Bausch wash past, leaving you unmoved, while there are moments which leave you wondering how she got the keys to your soul.

Siobhan Davies, choreographer

I know that Pina’s company is on tour at the moment and I send them heartfelt good wishes and strength as they continue. Pina must have triggered a continuous circle of enquiry and knowledge that rebounded around the artists that gathered to work with her and make years and years of outstanding performances. The loyalty that Pina and her company exchanged produced the power to make every minute of work count. An unconnected collection of felt images from performances ping into my mind as I write; many of then are of Dominique Mercy, whom I thank. Pina and her close associates must sometimes have taken each other to the edges of where performances can be made and sustained, but by the time they reached the stage, the wealth of energy and detail came from a whole company.

Pedro Almodóvar, film-maker

With a perennial cigarette in her hand, and her indescribable smile, Pina Bausch established a turning point in contemporary dance for the last quarter of the last century … Our friendship was intense and forever. Pina was very feminine and very sensual … She sparked very diverse emotions in me and always inspired me.

Sidi Larbi Cherkaoui, dancer and choreographer

Pina Bausch’s work was the first “contemporary” choreography I felt I understood. She somehow found a way to reflect reality, or at least show in movements and metaphors, a view on real life, on real relationships. Compared to classical dance, where men and women were pushed in specific and limited archetypes, her work touched me deeply as I recognised the tensions, the issues she was handling in her pieces. It moved me to tears, every time I saw something of hers.

She inspired me to this day to do what I do as a choreographer. She made me, through her art, believe in asking questions, and dancing the answers away, forever searching for a moment of grace. I was blessed in meeting her a couple of times and was invited to dance at her festival in Germany. I will cherish those moments of seeing her think, seeing her energy, and how she tried to make everyone feel welcome and taken care of. She had so much clarity and kindness, such power and vision, so much mystery also.

It’s a great loss to have her pass away, and a lot of tears have been shed since the sad news. I was struck by how extremely sad and empty I felt when I heard she left us. Death is not a new thing for me, yet I felt lost hearing of her passing away. In many ways, Pina was such a powerful inspiration, such a beacon, it’s like we are all her children. Suddenly we have to wake up and realise we have to become grownups and handle reality on our own, it’s a difficult shift to make for everyone staying behind.

My heart goes out to her family and to all her dancers and company members, to everyone in Wuppertal. I wish them a lot of courage in these difficult times. Pina leaves us with an incredible oeuvre, limitless inspiration and a vision of dance as a reflection of human lives, of human feelings, of human struggle. She will dance on forever in all our hearts, in our memories, in our bodies, in our movements. Let’s all keep (or start!) dancing to honour her. I feel she would have liked that … to see us all unite in dance.

Shobana Jeyasingh, choreographer

When I started choreographing, Pina Bausch was already an icon. She was like a huge mountain we all admired but also wanted to run away from. We were slightly scared that we’d be so influenced by her we wouldn’t find our own voice. In her work, there was an incredible theatricality of the body. You came out of the theatre gasping for breath. The Pina Bausch experience was like someone turning on a cold shower. It was an incredible assault on the senses. She’s a nice contrast to someone like Merce Cunningham. Cunningham is incredibly cool; it’s like looking at something from a very long distance but it still engages you. With Pina Bausch, it’s like looking at something at completely close quarters; you don’t get the freedom to have an emotional perspective. It’s thrown at you with such vigour and drama and energy.

Jan Fabre, theatre-maker

My last beautiful encounter with Pina was a night in an Antwerp restaurant a year ago. They closed the restaurant especially for us in order that we could smoke. Pina was a great lady, a great artist, and a fantastic smoker! I imagine that she died with a cigarette in her mouth: you have to stay loyal to the things that kill you.

Ramin Gray, associate director, Royal Court theatre

I saw Nelken in Venice in 1983. Half the audience had walked out in disgust by the end, but I was mesmerised. For years I had a poster of the girl with the accordion wandering through that endless field of carnations on my bedroom wall. The trouble with Pina is that her stuff is so distinctive you’ve got a real problem passing it off as your own without getting nabbed. Fortunately I did a youth theatre show in Ashford in 1990 where I offloaded most of it but she still haunts me after all these years.

Jasmin Vardimon, choreographer

I was sorry to hear the news of the death of a great artist, the pioneer of the dance-theatre genre. My first introduction to dance was her piece 1980, which I saw as a young teenager. A year later I had the privilege of helping to set the stage for Nelken and of observing the dress rehearsal – an experience that had a great influence on my development as an artist and my creative life today. Her work had the kind of impact that stays for a long time after you’ve seen it, and I’m sure this impact will stay for generations to come.

Cornelia Parker, artist

I first met Pina a few years ago, when Viktor was being performed at Sadler’s Wells. I’d always assumed that she would be a larger-than-life character because of those incredible images that she created, but the reverse was true. With her shyness, modesty and wraith-like physique, she seemed like somebody from an Edvard Munch painting.

There was a lot of humour in her work. People think of her as this dark German expressionist but there was lots of wit as well as tragedy, she used the whole emotional register. Her works weren’t about people having the perfect body. There were dancers of all ages – you might have 30 old age pensioners pirouetting on the stage, alongside sheep and dancers with impossibly long limbs. There’s a hypnotic refrain that seems to consistently resurface, like a slowed-down, Hawaiian hula. What is great about experiencing her work is the generosity and the space it allows you for your own thoughts.

A couple of years ago, I was asked to do a project in Wuppertal. There’s a suspended monorail in the city that passes right by the windows of Pina’s studio. I covered the windows of the trains with transparent gels, each carriage a different colour. I hoped that she might look out from her studio at night and see those mood trains go by.

Alistair Spalding, artistic director, Sadler’s Wells

It has been a great privilege to have been able to first present the work and then become a friend of Pina Bausch over the last eight years. Pina was first and last an artist who lived and breathed her work with the Tanztheater Wuppertal. She rarely took holidays but rather spent time travelling everywhere with her company, creating a new work every year and, most importantly and remarkably, keeping all of the works she ever made available in the repertoire. She had incredible stamina and there were regular, very late-night dinners after performances in Wuppertal and all around the world with a customary clinking of red wine glasses to start proceedings. Little did I know that the toast after her most recent premiere would be the last one I would have with her. Pina inspired absolute devotion from her company and collaborators, they all loved her deeply and so did I.

Monica Mason, director of the Royal Ballet

I was shocked and very saddened to hear of the death of Pina Bausch. She was a genius and a giant in the field of modern dance theatre and I wish I’d had the chance to know her and to perform in a piece of her work. It was always so exciting and inspiring to spend an evening watching her company performing. Her death leaves dance devastated.

Michael Morris, co-director, Artangel

Pina was well known for not talking about her work to journalists. She very rarely talked about her work to anyone at all. Whenever I went to Wuppertal, everything under the sun would be discussed around the dinner table but not the work. It wasn’t that she didn’t want to; she didn’t know how to talk about it. She was not an intellectual. She was motivated only by emotional truth and was not frightened to put difficult and paradoxical feelings on stage, almost as a way of evacuating aspects of humanity that she was fearful of. She made so many works, but they’re all one piece really. And it’s all about staging the full complexity of human emotion and impulse, however tough to look at. She celebrated humanity in all of its guises. Increasingly, she perhaps celebrated happiness more than pain. She always fused humour with horror, offsetting anxiety with compassion.

Ten days ago, I saw what has turned out to be her last piece. She would always show a new work without naming it; the title would come later. So this piece remains “ein stück von Pina Bausch”. It felt particularly complete and had a real integration of the more experienced members of the company and some younger dancers, making their debut.

Pina’s vision was second to none. I’d put her up there with Beckett and Bacon as one of the towering figures of the 20th century. All of the work is in repertoire and she kept it fresh so there can be a future for it. The company gave a performance in Poland the night that she died and they will perform over the weekend in Spoleto. The determination to keep her spirit alive through the work is fierce. The company were all asked if they wanted to perform on Tuesday, and they unanimously wanted to – and needed to.

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In search of their feminine side

Can a show put on by two gay men really reflect what it’s like to be a woman? Maddy Costa finds out

By his own admission, theatre producer and nightclub promoter Simon Casson is not the kind of person one would expect to be involved in a cabaret extravaganza glorifying femininity. “The idea of femininity is quite scary to me,” he says. “In that way, I’m not unlike a lot of gay men, or men in general. I don’t want to get in touch with my feminine side.” Yet here he is, producing Gay Shame Goes Girly, at the Brixton Academy in London from tomorrow.

Satire is at the heart of Gay Shame, an annual event that Casson started in the mid-90s as a counterpoint to the increasingly commercialised Gay Pride. It was certainly the driving force last year when Gay Shame went “macho”, exploring masculinity and its mostly negative connotations. “It was all fighting, farting and football,” says Casson cheerfully. Robin Whitmore, the director and designer of Gay Shame, describes that night as: “A response to the very macho culture that the gay world has become, with the emphasis on body building, rough and unprotected sex, drugs and alcohol. We wanted to show it as brutal and aggressive – to exaggerate masculinity the way that a cartoonist might do.”

Gay Shame Goes Girly, by contrast, aims to be less belligerent, with a more complex mood. The 30-odd performance artists and theatre groups involved contemplate what it is to give birth or nurture someone, and invite audience members to participate in gentle pursuits, such as watercolour painting (of vaginas), cake-decorating and crochet. But there will be raucous, even violent elements, too: a chance to undergo an ersatz breast augmentation, attend a hen party or submit to a controlling, cane-wielding mother figure. But Whitmore’s overall aesthetic, inspired by Dior’s postwar New Look fashions and the photographs of Cecil Beaton, is “quite high glamour, beautiful actually”.

Whitmore accepts that the event is trading in a number of biological, domestic and even pre-feminist stereotypes. “But it’s not about male-female,” he argues, “it’s about what society does to that. ‘Femininity’ means something different for straight women, for gay women, for straight men and for gay men, and for people of different ages.” Casson thinks the audience will appreciate the chance to “play with all that archetypal feminine stuff. It’s great when those things become fodder for a nightclub to use as props, instead of trapping us and defining our existence.”

More than that, says Whitmore, many people “want to celebrate something that maybe has been stifled in their life”. A gay man born in the 50s, he long struggled with the received notion that boys should not be feminine. He recollects his childhood “sense of guilt about the fact that I had pink lacy curtains in my bedroom, and that I loved playing with dolls.

I would throw the doll across the room when my mum walked in, and pick up a car – even though she said: ‘You don’t have to do that.’”

Even now, says Casson, gay men who “show some feminine attributes get abused and objectified”. In an overwhelmingly macho culture, there is no longer a place for figures like the bouffant-and-cravat-sporting Quentin Crisp. “Gay men rejecting their nellie side, is that progress?” asks Casson. “I don’t think so.”

This interrogation of the relationship between femininity and homosexuality is
fascinating. Yet isn’t there something slightly odd about two gay men superintending an event dedicated to femininity? Amy Lamé thinks so. She is the compere for Gay Shame, but this year has demanded a more integral role. “I know gay men might like to think that they know what it’s like to be a woman, but they don’t,” she says.

Appointing herself Casson and Whitmore’s “femininity adviser”, she will ensure “an authentic feminine, lesbian voice” is prominent on the night. Lamé feels that femininity is misunderstood. “It isn’t about weakness. I think of femininity as a quiet strength that has been much under-appreciated. I see it as giving birth, as running small independent businesses, ie households.” That still ties feminine experience to biology and domesticity – but Lame is also suspicious of what she describes as “the nostalgification of femininity that has been happening in the past few years. It’s developed into this bizarre cult of cupcakes and crafts. I can’t say I don’t enjoy that, but I’m interested in feminist cupcakes, in radical knitting.” That’s why she is keen to expose the “gory side of an excessive idea of femininity, the primping and poking and physical monstrosities that women put themselves through”.

The element of the show Lame is most keenly anticipating is being put together by a (male) performance artist called Scottee, and is titled Abortive Tapestry. In one room, audience members will contribute stitches to a huge crocheted image – while in an adjacent room, backstreet abortions are enacted with knitting needles, as they were in the mid-20th century. “That’s the kind of rubbing up against ideas that I’m interested in,” says Lame. Yet this is the piece that Whitmore confesses makes him feel most nervous.

Lame also points out that, while effeminacy is outdated among gay men, overt femininity – the wearing of dresses and lipstick – is frequently rejected outright by gay women. She remembers how, on arriving in London from the US 15 years ago, she was turned away from lesbian clubs because: “I was wearing a skirt. I felt a real sense of rejection.”

Another Gay Shame performer, Karen Tom McLeod, similarly spent the 90s feeling as though “if you were a feminine-looking lesbian, you were second-rate. It was such a bizarre thing – it was almost misogynist.” It was so important to Lame and McLeod that Gay Shame address this “femme-phobia”, they arranged a private salon for Casson, Whitmore and a group of women to discuss femininity within the lesbian community. It proved so fruitful that Lame has set up two public debates on femininity (one each for men and women), to take place this month.

Working on the show has “really fired me up politically, and reignited my feminist spirit,” Lame says. “One of the hardest things about this project for me has been having two men in charge.” She has been rereading her feminist library and says: “Things haven’t come as far as we think.”

Whitmore is keen to incorporate a feminist agenda into Gay Shame: alongside Beaton, his other key reference point is the American feminist art group Guerrilla Girls. Yet, how different might Gay Shame Goes Girly look if women were in charge? “Cecil Beaton images are not my idea of femininity at all,” says McLeod. “The women look great but they’re in corsetry. It’s a male view of femininity.”

For all that she thinks of femininity as an inner quality, Lame knows that it is most often defined by a woman’s appearance. As such, she’s thinking carefully about what she is going to wear for Gay Shame. “It would be easy to wear a polka-dotted apron and be that cupcake-perfect image of a woman,” she says. “It’s more difficult to be confrontational, to show feminine strength.”

As for Casson, he is going to keep on suppressing his feminine side. “I will be wearing a skirt – but it’s very much a man’s skirt: discreet, black. Then again,” he ponders, “maybe it’s more feminine to be discreet”.

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Kicking open the door to the future

The Black Album is a sprawling book about late 80s London, taking in radical Islam, ecstasy – and Prince. It wasn’t easy to adapt for theatre

Last summer I suggested to Jatinder Verma that we attempt a dramatisation of my second novel, The Black Album. This was a novel I had begun to think about in 1991, not long after the publication of The Buddha of Suburbia. Unlike that story, which I’d been trying to tell in numerous versions since I first decided to become a writer, aged 14, The Black Album was more or less contemporary, a “state of Britain” narrative not unlike those I’d grown up watching, enthralled and excited, on television and in the theatre, particularly the Royal Court.

Around the time of its publication in 1993, there had been talk of filming The Black Album. But instead of returning to something I had just written and was relieved to have done with, it seemed easier to write a new piece, with similar themes. This was My Son the Fanatic, a film shot in and around Halifax, starring Rachel Griffiths and Om Puri. Now, with the 20th anniversary of the fatwa against Salman Rushdie approaching, and since The Black Album is set in 1988/9 and concentrates on a small group of religious extremists, we thought my pre-7/7 novel might shed some light on some of the things that have happened since.

Not that I had read the novel since writing it; and if I felt hesitant – as I did – to see it revived in another form, it was because I was anxious that in the present mood it might, in places, seem a little frivolous. But the young radical Muslims I came to know at the time did appear to me to be both serious and intelligent – as well as naive, impressionable and half-mad. And it wasn’t as if the subject of liberalism and its relation to extreme religion had gone away.

It was debate, ideological confrontation and physical passion, that we had in mind when we sat down to work on the translation from prose to play. The novel, which has a thriller-like structure, is a sprawl of many scenes in numerous locations: foul pubs, a further education college, a mosque, clubs, parties, a boarding house, the street. It was impossible to retain this particular sense of late-80s London, so we had to create longer scenes and concentrate on the important and even dangerous arguments between characters, as they interrogated Islam, liberalism, consumer capitalism, as well as the place and meaning of literature.

The first draft was too much like a film. Jatinder reminded me that we had to be ruthless. He also reminded me how much I’ve learned about editing from the film and theatre directors I’ve worked with. If we were to create big parts for actors in scenes set in small rooms, we needed to turn prose into fervent talk, having the conversation carry the piece. We had to ensure the actors had sufficient material to see their parts clearly. The piece had to work for those who hadn’t read the book.

We worked on a number of drafts, and it was the usual business of writing: cutting, condensing, expanding, developing, putting in jokes and trying material in different places until the story moved forward naturally. I was particularly keen to keep the banter of students and their often adolescent attitudes, particularly towards sexuality. This was, after all, one of their most significant terrors: that the excitement the west offered would not only be too much for them, but for everyone.

The fatwa against Rushdie in February 1989 reignited my concern about the rise of Islamic radicalism, something I had become aware of while in Pakistan in 1982, where I was writing My Beautiful Laundrette. But for me, that wasn’t the whole story. Much else of interest was happening at the end of the 80s: the music of Prince; the collapse of communism and the “velvet revolution”; the rise of the new dance music, along with the use of a revelatory new drug, ecstasy; Tiananmen Square; Madonna using Catholic imagery in Like a Prayer; postmodernism, “mash-ups”, and the celebration of hybridity – partly the subject of The Satanic Verses.

This was also the period, or so I like to think, when Britain became aware that it was changing, or had already changed from a monocultural to a multiracial society, and had realised, at last, that there was no going back. This wasn’t merely a confrontation with simple racism, the kind of thing I’d grown up with, which was usually referred to as “the colour problem”. When I was young, it was taken for granted that to be black or Asian was to be inferior to the white man. And not for any particular reason. It was just a fact. This was much more than that. Almost blindly, a revolutionary, unprecedented social experiment had been taking place. The project was to turn – out of the end of the Empire, and on the basis of mass immigration – a predominantly white society into a racially mixed one, thus forming a new notion of what Britain was and would become.

Now was the time for this to be evaluated. The fatwa, and the debate it stimulated, seemed to make this clear. Was it not significant that many of these discussions were about language? The Iranian condemnation of a writer had, after all, been aimed at his words. What, then, was the relationship between free speech and respect? What could and could not be said in a liberal society? How would different groups in this new society relate – or rather, speak – to one another?

The coercive force of language was something I had long been aware of. As a mixed-race child growing up in a white suburb, the debased language used about immigrants had helped fix and limit my identity. My early attempts to write now seem like an attempt to undo this stasis, to create a more fluid and complicated self through storytelling. In the 1970s, many of us became aware, via the scrutiny of the gay, feminist and black movements, of the power that language exerted. If the country was to change – excluding fewer people – so did the discourse, and why not? There were terms applied to certain groups that were reductive, stupid, humiliating, oppressive.

Liberals were in a tricky position, having to argue both for linguistic protectionism in some areas and for freedom in others. So when some Muslims began to speak of “respect” for their religion, and the “insult” of the Satanic Verses, the idea of free speech – its necessity and extension – was always presented as the conclusive argument. Criticism was essential in any society. This could be said, but not that. But how would this be decided, and by whom?

The Marxists, too, were finding the issue of the fatwa difficult. It was only partly a coincidence that Islamic fundamentalism came to the west in the year that other great cause, Marxist-communism, disappeared. The character of the stuttering socialist teacher in The Black Album was partly inspired by some of the strange convolutions of the disintegrating Left.

To struggle my way through this thicket of fine distinctions, I invented the story of Shahid, a somewhat lost and uncertain Asian kid from Kent – whose father has recently died – and who joins up, at college, with a band of similar-minded anti-racists. The story develops with Shahid discovering that the group are going further than anti-racist activism, beginning to organise themselves not only around the attack on Rushdie, but as Islamo-fascists who believe themselves to be in possession of the Truth.

This is a big intellectual leap. The group, and those they identify with, have powerful, imperialistic ideas of how the world should be. Soon, believing the west has sunk into a stew of decadence, consumerism and celebrity obsession – a not untypical fantasy about the west, corresponding to a not-unsimilar fantasy of the west about the sensual east, as Edward Said has argued – they believe it is their duty to bring about a new, pure world. To do this, they insist on a complete dominance of people’s private lives, and of women and female sexuality in particular.

Some of these attitudes were familiar to me: I grew up in the 60s and 70s when the desire for revolution, for violent change, was part of our style. Almost everyone I knew had wanted, and worked in some way to bring about, not only the modification of capitalism, but its overthrow. For us, from DH Lawrence to William Burroughs and the Sex Pistols, blasphemy and dissent was a blessed thing, kicking open the door to the future. The credo was: be proud of your blasphemy, these vile idols have been worshipped for too long!

But there was, mixed in with this rhetoric, a strong element of puritanism and self-hatred. There was a desire for the masochism of obedience and self-punishment, something illustrated not only by the Taliban, but by all revolts. Riaz, the earnest and clever leader of the small group Shahid joins, understands that hatred of the Other is an effective way of keeping his group together and moving forward. To do this, he has to create an effective paranoia. He must ensure that the idea of the Other is sufficiently horrible and dangerous to make it worth being afraid of. Just as the west has generated fantasies of the east for its own purposes, the east – this time stationed in the west – will do the same, ensuring a complete disjunction.

Of course, for some Muslims this disjunction is there from the start. To be bereft of religion is to be bereft of human value. In Karachi, people were both curious and amazed when I said I was an atheist. “So when you die,” said one of my cousins, “you’ll be all dressed up with nowhere to go?” At the same time Islamic societies, far from being “spiritual”, are – because of years of deprivation and envy – among the most materialistic on earth. Shopping and the mosque have no trouble in getting along.

Towards the end of The Black Album, with the help of his lecturer and soon-to-be girlfriend Deedee Osgood, Shahid understands that he has to withdraw from Riaz’s group in order to establish himself. This isn’t easy, as the group has provided him with solidarity, friendship and direction – and doesn’t want to let him go. He extracts himself, in part, by beginning to discover his sexuality and creativity. It is no accident that British and American pop, as exemplified for Shahid by Prince’s intelligent, sensual and prolific creativity, was in a particularly lively phase.

If, along with mythology, religions are among man’s most important and finest creations – with God perhaps being his greatest idea of all – Shahid also learns how corrupt and stultifying these concepts can become. It turns out that Shahid is one of the lucky ones, strong enough to find out that he’d rather effect the world as an artist than an activist. The others in his group are not so intelligent or objective; or perhaps they are just more passionate for political change. Whatever the reasons – and it is probably too late for psychological explanations – something had begun to stir in the late 80s that has had a profound effect on our world, and which we are still trying to come to terms with.

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